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2000.02.28 PC Work Session Packet1 - Community Development Department City of Crystal 4141 Douglas Drive North Crystal, MN 55422 (612) 531-1000 fax 531-1188 To: Crystal Planning Commission members and other interested parties From: - John Sutter, Planner tel 531-1142 fax 531-1188 Date: February 4, 2000 Subject: Notice of Cancellation of Planning Commission meeting scheduled for February 14th; Notice of Work Session scheduled for February 28th Due to a lack of action items, the regular Planninq Commission meeting originally scheduled for Monday, February 14th has been cancelled. A work session meeting will be held on Monday, February 28th in the Community Room in the basement of Crystal City Hall (4141 Douglas Drive North). The following is the agenda for that work session, which like all Planning Commission meetings is open to the public: CRYSTAL PLANNING COMMISSION AGENDA SUMMARY *WORK SESSION* February 28, 2000 7:00 PM 1. Discussion Item: 8 unit townhouse development proposed for 6900 42nd Ave. N. 2. Discussion Item: Metal as an exterior building material. 3. Informal discussion and announcements. 4. Adjournment. Regarding item #1, please note that this is intended to be a follow-up to the meeting held for neighborhood property owners on January 27th. While the developer is expected to have additional ---information about the project on February 28th, the full proposal and formal application are not ;xpected to be submitted until March or April. A public hearing before the Planning Commission will be required at that time, prior to consideration of the proposal by the City Council. Feel free to call John Sutter at 531-1142 if you have any questions. Thank you. COPY FOR PLANNING COMMISSION DISCUSSION ON FEB. 28TH February 24, 2000 To: John DeVries Prime Builders 5747 West Broadway Crystal MN 55428 Community Development Department City of Crystal 4141 Douglas Drive North Crystal, MN 55422 (612) 531-1000 fax 531-1188 VIA FAX (2 pages, incl. cover) tel: 537-9143 fax: 537-9946 CC: Barber, Burks, Daniel, Fritzke, Hackett, Hill, Linderholm, Mathisen, Mossey, Norris, Peters, Ricker, Walsh From: John Sutter, Planner tel: 531-1142 fax: 531-1188 Subject: Staff review of preliminary site plan for 8 -unit townhouse development at 6900 42nd M'oday I rnet with other City staff, including representatives from the engineering, building, fire and .orestry functions, to review the preliminary site plan we received from you approximately one week ago. The following is a summary of comments from our discussion: Driveways and parking areas shall have minimum b6-12 concrete curb & gutter. 2. All water meters shall be easily accessible so they can be read from outside and inside. 3. All utilities from the main onto the property and to the buildings shall be the responsibility of the developer and subsequent owner(s). This also includes abandonment of any existing utilities serving the property. 4. Pitch of sanitary sewer is too shallow. Site plan shows approx. 1'/4' of fall from MH at rear of site to 42nd Avenue; min. 6' fall needed. (Contact Engineering Technician Tom Walsh at 531- 1161 for more info.) 5. Pitch of swale along west side of property is too shallow. Should be at least 2% to prevent ponding. Recommend that all drainage of driveway and parking areas be directed toward the pond to the east, and rely on the western swale only to drain the buffer area and the runoff corning from the properties to the west. (Contact Engineering Technician Tom Walsh at 531- 1161 for more info, including a hard copy of some suggested changes to the grading plan.) Rear hydrant should have storm sewer catch basin or something similar so it can be flushed without damaging the landscaping / sod / etc. 7. Add a second fire hydrant at the front of the property. COPY FOR PLANNING COMMISSION DISCUSSION ON FEB. 28TH John DeVries February 24, 2000 - page 2- 8. Post the east side of the driveway as "No Parking — Fire Lane". 9. If gang mailboxes will be used, try to integrate them into some sort of entry feature. 10. Forester noted that only four species are proposed; recommends expanding the variety of new trees and also does not favor the use of Colorado Blue Spruce. (Contact City Forester Jim Burks at 531-1162 for more info.) 11. Concerns were expressed about the number and quality of existing trees to be removed. Minimum 1:1 tree replacement should be required, and staff preference would be to have some of the replacement trees be relatively large rather than the smaller trees typically used as replacements. 12. Staff would prefer enhanced landscaping in the buffer strip between the access road and the west property line, especially in the wider parts closer to 42nd Avenue. Some bushes or other smaller plants mixed in with the trees in this area would help to create a more natural and less formal, less artificial feel. 13. We are unsure as to whether to apply the flood elevation and freeboard requirements to your _. project, since the buildings would not appear to be located in the flood plain as defined by FEMA and in our ordinance. We are working to resolve this issue and will contact you when we have reached a conclusion. There are some additional notes from Utilities Superintendent John Hill (531-1166) which you should also review. I will leave these with Tom Walsh for you or a representative to pick up along with Tom's suggestions for the grading plan. At its February 28th work session, the Planning Commission will review and discuss your preliminary site plan but will not take action until you submit a full application. If you have any questions, feel free to call me at 531-1142. Thank you. Regards, John Sutter, Planner F m E BLDG. X_ EYIST. I SLOG. _I f X1.4 I Z I PF �,�=1 rt-lfi BEP. MEMORY"NE ESTATES City of Crystal Hennepin County, Minnesota s LEGAL DESCRIPTION The West 185 feet of the South 400 feet of Lot 43, Auditor's Subdivision Na 324, Hennepin County, Minnesota S1TE DATA: Total Site Area =74,0231 = 1.699 Ac. Total No. Lots – B Total No. Units 8 Net Density = 4.79 U/A Building Area = 21,250 Sq.Ft.t Common Drive Area = 10,623 Sq.Ftt Unit Drive Area – 2,72DSq.Ft.3 Budding Coverage = 16.89% Impervious Coverage = 46.74% aNfa Ift N H0.' M507flON 514N4 a rrrmv7Lk'5 5a = fWZ52"r0 Y' PJ 2-2Q 9rV5 Z'IN CLTW MJREFNE/Ep 2+OE N L?E'Ni I -M AMUR MAPti (AGER GINNALA) r 1�r5 L/ia? V-1 N' �x 5-2Q 5f.ME52%00W7 \ j f&UY5PA[WI20LE6. VUV ,n — 5ACEF WF11TE ASH (FFiAXINUS AMERICANA) P..W+N: 5CL VIAGM '.1R+F TWE 10 FM LITIX4. B.B. MIM13" Q44. 011YJ �MNu '"LW M5W OF t4LC7 BLACK HILLS SPRUCE (PINUS GLAUCA DENSATA) COLORADO iC' LF BML f0 � I"� p 6. elermu y' j70:ENVE�fD [PALE BLUE SPRUCE (PINUS PUNGENUS) nAfW 50L VICTU 1 E �AN11NG C�E;r1Il O EXISTING — WT5„) ,rz5m L wSab wads [ZaNP: MEMM LANE EWS5 SI'.4"•. M507flON WCOWNECJ TITE TYPE (WrAmut Wye) 5a +rr a 9ML Toa 1"-r' PJ r• Icore"u y` MJREFNE/Ep 2+OE AM WA AMUR MAPti (AGER GINNALA) Fe79fl7 flFLE — TREE — 5ACEF WF11TE ASH (FFiAXINUS AMERICANA) P..W+N: 5CL VIAGM 3 B.B. 3 PLANING Mf& PROPOSED CONIFEROUS TREE wads [ZaNP: MEMM LANE EWS5 SI'.4"•. M507flON WCOWNECJ TITE TYPE (WrAmut Wye) 5a OTY. w01" �!"7S PROPOSED DECIDUOUS AM WA AMUR MAPti (AGER GINNALA) TREE WF11TE ASH (FFiAXINUS AMERICANA) CALIPER 3 B.B. PROPOSED CONIFEROUS TREE BHS CBS BLACK HILLS SPRUCE (PINUS GLAUCA DENSATA) COLORADO 4' MGT.14 B.B. BLUE SPRUCE (PINUS PUNGENUS) 14 B.B. O EXISTING TREE NOTE _ B.B DENOTES "BALLED AND SURLAPPED' SPECIMEN. C.G. DENOTES 'CONTAINER GROWN SPECIMEN. n liq ROCKFORD I ROAD I I LZ, s i Oz�i '^ o O Z � ,CooW eoa�i _ RNWO.W F 4 w �, w- ai u �i f• y 3N 1 F W � aeaan also GBH smr./ean 30 0 30 60 90 A Cccle 1" = 30' 2/18/00 1 l I ( I I l I I I �N ISI CErsrQL SME City of cRrsm "Name" County, Minnesota LEGEND X = 920.8 —SS- - Wm- -ST - x 8' San.Sewer 6' Wate ain 12' Stom Sewer Vy BLDG. I I EX 8' GAS I I I V Ln li, I WATER LEAD I Z ! EX 8' GAS 8' V,C.P. SAN dl WATER STUB 1 I 16'x6' TEE WATER SNB D=4.0 Im- 1=881.02 �S SS I 1 — — SS --Z— � I T —UG UG UG UG UG UG—UG—UG—UG U'mG•'�-��`yJ`jJ'G U UG UG UG UAG` G UG UG — vv viL-- Wta�—Wr,A--- Whl--- W Wn�i-- W vi--- �h / A .. \AIA I YYIVf--- ry .. EX MH W " wm rrv\ ... AI AI L S SS SS SS SS SS rz 16' P.C.C.P. WATERMAIN 1=877 a" CAR T=886.70 t__: --1 cnI 1 RocxaoRD L Roan 8"V.C.P ___—_—__�__._—---------- EX 4' GAS I l � I EXISTING CONTOUR EXISTING GRADE ELEVATION EXISTING SANITARY SEWER EXISTING WATERMAIN EXISTING STORM SEWER EXISTING FENCE PROPOSED SANITARY SEWER PROPOSED WATERMAIN PROPOSED STORM SEWER EROSION CONTROL BARRIER 30 0 30 60 90 Scale 1" = 30' ECT NUMBER ;oicoe wN _Eeoi �a k omo du—`s K 2 2 2 nm O O=hm V z��'n 2a m z�w eo Q2i aNwa.4 mAw a¢n amcw AA Av �3 02/14/00 E J jr I SILT / } :ro FENCE `ser. C?;.. I G I I I I I I 884.9 __X EX. BLDG. EX ataG. I I 888.1 BLL.G Q I EXIST. BLDG. � I 888.5 I I I ar"a + . I ROCKFORD I ROAD I I MEmoRv AfE EsrAr.=s City of Crystal EXISTING CONTOUR =k?JECT EXISTING GRADE ELEVATION n,uuEEF EXISTING TREE UNE x PROPOSED STORM SEWER Hennepin county 20_ --------Minnesota AND WALKOUTS (TIP.) i GENERAL GRADING NOTES: gp0,g DENOTES AS—BUILT GRADE 1.) UNDERLYING TOPOGRAPHY FROM PLANS PROVIDED BY BUILDER & FIELD SHOTS BY HEDLUND ENGINEERING. 2.) EXISTING UTILITY LOCATIONS AS—PER PLANS PROVIDED BY THE CITY OF CRYSTAL AND FIELD SHOTS BY HEDLUND ENGINEERING. 3.) INSTALL, MAINTAIN AND REPAIR SILT FENCING, ROCK CONSTRUCTION ENTRANCE AND SEDIMENT FlLTT`R(S) UNTIL CONSTRUCTION IS COMPLETED. AND NEW VEGETATION AND SURFACCING IS ESTABLISHED. 4.) ALL DENUDED AREAS OUTSIDE OF THE STREET RIGHT OF WAY SHALL BE REVEGETATED WITHIN 72 HOURS AFTER FINAL GRADING . SEED NTH MNDOT 600 (6) SPECIFICATION MIXTURE BY JUNE 1STH. IF PLANTING OCCURS AFTER AUGUST 15TH, SEED HATH A NURSE CROP OF RYE BY OCTOBER 5TH. IF PLANTING HAS NOT OCCURED BY OCTOBER STH, THEN DORMANT SEED THE SITE AFTER NOVEMBER 1. STRAW MULCH SHALL BE SPREAD AT THE RATE OF 1 1/2 TONS PER ACRE AND ANCHORED WITH A STRAIGHT, SERRATED BLADE DISC. AVAILABLE TOP SOIL SHALL BE SPREAD TO A MINIMUM THICKNESS OF 4 INCHES OUTSIDE HOUSEPAD AREAS AND 2 INCHES WITHIN HOUSE PADS. REFER TO THE GRADING MANUAL FOR CONSTRUCTION SCHEDULE ALL AREAS ALTERED BECAUSE OF CONSTRUCTION MUST BE RESTORED WITH SEED AND DISCED MULCH, SOD OR WOOD FIBER BLANKETS. AREAS ALTERED WITH A SLOPE OF 3:1 OR GREATER MUST BE RESTORED WITH SOD OR FIBER BLANKETS Steel or Wood Post Filter Fabric Securely � Fastened to Post'.��' Lay Fabric In Trench I 30" Min. Height Undisturbed_ - Soil y _ Dig 6"x6" Trench 24" Min, Depth ~ AlongAlongFence Line.B.ck—� l Fence The TOP of Fabric and Compact the Soil SILT FENCE TYPICAL No Scale LEGEND: �--------^ EXISTING CONTOUR X — 920.8 EXISTING GRADE ELEVATION EXISTING TREE UNE PROPOSED CONTOUR PROPOSED STORM SEWER EROSION CONTROL BARRIER 20_ TOP OF 8' WALL ON DAYLIGHTS AND WALKOUTS (TIP.) RETAINING WALL gp0,g DENOTES AS—BUILT GRADE 30 0 30 60 go IN Scale 1" = 30' �0. w a A T W O� Csamz� �W �3oW atry 4'^<�0 aurr aco® muw �Bx 2 I 2/18/00 z U H z W Y S88'17'15"E 116.31, R=5360-10 =0'44'06" i L=68.75 X60 4 0 �O ° 2 � X60 D OUTLOT A 76.0 3 o 0 t 0 M 76.0 O z o 0 W 00 76. 0 0 0 0 1 1 ' r J r7 r� 76.0 U H z W Y S88'17'15"E 116.31, R=5360-10 =0'44'06" i L=68.75 X60 4 0 �O ° 2 � X60 D OUTLOT A 76.0 3 0 t Q M 76.0 O z O 76.0 76. 0 0 Z o t r7 r� 76.0 O2O t� t� 76.0 om006 MEMORY"A EESrABES L i cw of Cysto! i l i %feW7J7d J7 County, Minnesota I i INDEX.• 1.) PRELIMINARY PLAT I I 2.) PRELIMINARY CRADING 3. 1 PRELIMINARY UTILITY 4.) SITE PLAN I I I I I o 10 M t � 76.0 I I � 2 I 60 I rT 76.0 M --------1----- S88'17'15"E 105.28 R=5760.10 42ND AVE ti N) =0'47'37" o' L=79,78 tROCKFORD ROAD) - — — — — — (HCSAH NO 9. PLAT 58) NKENTUCKY N I I AVE N �:. ---- I 60 \• 5 9th 4r / Sc Fig kf. al c ysur _ . zSITE r { - ,001 " 3h -� a a kwa - 1 LOCATION MAP Legal Description The West. 185 feet of the South 400 feet of Lot 43• Auditor's Subdi-A31w No. 324, Hennepin County. Minnesota FI I w ate, a >w Aa zI a�.n o� w^z� e 8 F ]MM OECD I C(aall 30 0 30 63 90 t Scale 1" = 30' z/f a/oo 1) Site Layout 2) Exterior Elevations Roof 3) Floor Plain 4) Sections- Overall Site 1 hereby certify that these plans have been prepared by me, and that I am a duly registered Architect under the laws of the State of Minnesota Registration 014587 KLE 1OWN I" IWO.- �m �rr .r��rrwrr rr wrrrr�rrr��rr rrrrr�.rarrr�rr ��rrrwrrr�rr rrra�rrrrr�wr w..e�.r __ __ __ BRUCE LEHRE[lam' * ARC[1--(lOTECT 3908 GEC►RGIA AVENUE NORTH CRYSTAL, MN. 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I/Sloe l a n u n u 1. .1 u u 11 1. 1. 11 n n n u N II 11 11 11 .1 I 1. 11 11 I �I 11 11 F i where existing block wall ti a is ased in place of new 0 block wall for roof bearingg. o Y F i reinforce existing block wall 3 o F as per engineers drawings > 14 r li o -�---exlsting block wall (north face) (U x E 00 r1 H Ls F1 LL F -i N L Q hi C V �O F � ~ 1 " --existing block wall 4 I CAII ,ywr.a .All . I/Sloe February 28, 2000 PLANNING COMMISSION WORK SESSION The Planning Commission met on Monday, February 28'', at 7:00 p.m. for a work session to discuss the 8 unit townhouse development proposed for 6900 42"d Ave. N., a concept proposal from Kevitt Excavating for a 42' x 130' building addition at 3335 Pennsylvania Ave. N., and metal as an exterior building material. The following were present: Elsen, K. Graham, T. Graham, Kamp, Krueger, Magnuson, Nystrom, and VonRueden. Also present were City Manager Anne Norris, Community Development Director Patrick Peters, Planner John Sutter and Recording Secretary Gail Van Krevelen. Absent was Koss. Discussion Item 1: John DeVries, Prime Builder's, discussed his proposal for the 8 -unit townhouses with those present. Issues discussed centered around the drainage of the property and landscaping concerns. Prime Builders stated that they have devised a grading plan to make certain there would be no standing water on the site and to provide adequate drainage down to the pond. The City had requested drainage, and their plan calls for drainage. Prime Builders also would like to relocate the proposed driveway closer to the surrounding properties. They stated that in doing this, they could save the majority of the large oak trees that are currently on the lot. Several residents attended the work session to express their concerns, primarily about drainage issues. Rawlins Houske, 4218 Kentucky Ave. N. felt that the oaks only benefited one property anyway, and not the rest of the neighbors. Brett Benson, 4242 Kentucky Ave. N., asked John DeVries how close the new proposed driveway would come to the oaks, because if they were too close they would die anyway. Based on input from the residents, it was determined the majority were white oaks which were deemed hardier and less likely to be affected by the driveway. Bill Mundale, 4236 Kentucky Ave. N., was questioning what the level would be at the outlet of the storm sewer. Jerry Pastoors, 4331 Louisiana Ave. N., said he was representing a few people and has had 38-39 years experience with the pond and he stated that he can tell you where the water level would be when it rains. There are little outlets and since the pond was dredged he has seen it over them many times. He also mentioned that there has been thousands of dollars spent to improve drainage, and suggested the City of Crystal consider doing more dredging and not wait until they get flooded out again. Jim Murphy, 4408 Louisiana Ave. N., said that when he built his house, he was told he had to put in three steps and he wanted to know how all of this fits in with the elevation of their backyards. He also wondered what the zoning was for the property. One of the residents also mentioned that there is 100" of tile going in and only 18" going out and that it may be a good time to look at that. Overall, their main concern was the drainage and how the redevelopment of this lot could negatively affect their properties. Randy Hedlund, Prime Builders, told those attending that the highest recorded elevation was 880.7 and that their general swale grades would be a couple feet higher than that. He stated that 40% - 50% of the 1.7 acre property would be impervious, and if it's less than an acre of impervious, you don't provide a ponding area. He also stated that it would be hard to show that there would be a measurable increase in elevation. Chair Magnuson stated that if this proposal was allowed, the property would need to be rezoned, but mentioned to the residents that the lot could be split into three and then three homes could be built. She said that at this point nothing has been decided, and the Planning Commission was trying to work out any problems now. Chair Magnuson requested that Planner Sutter consult with the City Engineer to see if dredging the pond again is a feasible option and to determine how comfortable he is with the drainage issues. Planner Sutter will also consult the forester regarding the landscaping. Chair Magnuson also polled the residents to see if those attending had any objections to the new location of the road, and none were expressed. The residents requested an on-site meeting with the developers, and John DeVries stated he will be there at noon on Saturday, March 4t'. Planner Sutter indicated he will attend, and Chair Magnuson requested that the City Engineer be there also if possible. Chair Magnuson stated that based on neighborhood input, she felt the biggest concerns were the water and drainage issues, and thanked the residents for attending. Chair Magnuson excused herself at 8:05 p.m. Discussion Item 2: The Planning Commission members viewed the concept proposal from Kevitt Excavating to construct a 42' x 130' building addition in the I-2 Heavy Industrial District at 3335 Pennsylvania Ave. N. Planner Sutter stated that the proposal would be a basic site plan review, and Kevitt Excavating is requesting permission to build a block building with a shingled hip roof to be used for the indoor storage of their equipment. Potential conflicts discussed were the close proximity of the north border to New Hope and concern about the pond and drainage issues. City Manager Norris indicated she had discussed the drainage issue with the City Engineer so he is aware of it. Planner Sutter also stated that the only residential property in the area is the townhouses on Nevada Ave. N., across the railroad tracks. Discussion Item 3: The Planning Commission next discussed the issue of using metal as an exterior building material. The City currently does not have an ordinance in place regulating this issue and many of the members are concerned about this. They indicated they didn't approve of prohibiting it entirely but would like restrictions put on the use of it. Ways discussed to do this would be allowing a percentage of the total construction to be metal, or have input on how it can be used on the building. Several issues were brought up for consideration. It was discussed whether to factor in the surroundings where the proposed building would be located, and whether businesses with a known trademark (i.e. Circuit City with the giant plug) would avoid locating here because they would be limited on metal usage. It was also brought up that metal has improved and the product has changed, and possibly banning the least attractive of metals and being more flexible with the others is another option. Community Development Director Patrick Peters said the City can designate what's appropriate in a given zone, and if retail businesses want to build in Crystal they will adjust to fit the community. He also stated that if the city has an ordinance it will be spelled out for the developers. The Planning Commission members all agreed they need to do something about this issue. Community Development Director Peters mentioned that the Fair School is having an Open House in May and that it has large amounts of metal used in the construction. Planner Sutter stated that there are no items for consideration on the March agenda, and asked if the Planning Commission would prefer to cancel that meeting. After discussion, it was decided to cancel the March meeting of the Planning Commission. � The meeting adjourned at 8:47 p.m.