1985 PRC MinutesCRYSTAL PARK AND RECREATION ADVISORY COMMISSION
January 2, 1985
The regular meeting of the Crystal Park and Recreation Advisory Commission was
called to order at 7:04 p.m. by Vice Chairperson Garry Grimes. Members present
were: Mr. Okeson, Ms. Smith, Ms. Reid, Mr. Hoffman, Mr. Karnowski. Also present
were: Mr. Brandeen and Ms. Hackett from the department staff and Mr. Rygg,
council liaison.
The minutes were approved as sent.
Ms. Hackett reviewed the monthly report highlighting major activities. The
Commission expressed their concern that the January City newsletter would be out
on time.
The Commission discussed ideas for "Life. Be In It" day. These ideas included:
Possible location chance or time change
Sign on highway showing location
Program Ideas:
Parent/Child Fun Run or Fun Walk
Treasure Hunt/Medallion Hunt
Coloring Contest
City vs. media softball
Crystal Trivia Contest
Canoeing
Rental of games - Jacob's Ladder, Moonwalk
Bazaar
Renaissance Festival entertainers
Pepsi and Hot Dog - 25�
Band
Volleyball Tournament
Carp Fishing Contest
Barbershop quartet
Have a theme
More discussion will be held at the next meeting.
The plans for Sno Fun Day were reviewed. Workers are: Mr. Stockhaus, Ms. Gates,
Ms.,Reid, Ms. Smith, and Mr. Hoffmann. Mr. Grimes will try to videotape
activities.
Mr. Brandeen reviewed a memo from BRW regarding a comparison of the Becker
Park BRW plan and the Brandeen plan. Mr. Brandeen further explained that
there will be approximately 160 families in the multi-f6mily housing south-
east of the park.
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With these families within such close proximity to the park, the character of the
park changes from an athletic field to that of a neighborhood park. The
ballfields are decentralized because of their proximity to the neighborhood.
Commission members expressed concern -regarding the park's parking lot (south)
would be used by the housing residents and would not be available for those
wanting to use the park.
Ms. Reid suggested exchanging the locations of the two parking lots. She felt
the larger parking lot's present location could pose a hazard to Seniors due
to increased traffic and the Seniors may attempt to cut through the parking lot
to get to the passive area. Mr. Hoffmann s ug g e s t e.d that the court games and
the parking lot be flip flopped to allow more natural flow of activities from
the hard surface area into the passive area.
Mr. -Karnowski suggested that both lots should have parking meters. This would
stop overflow parking from the housing units and the revenue could benefit park
development. Ms. Smith thought the revenue could be used for the upkeep, mainte-
nance and clean-up of Becker Park.
In summary, the Commission was most concerned about 2 things regarding the
Becker Park Plan:
1- Concern for the proper use of the parking lot- no overnight
parking allowed.
2- Exploring the possibility of the big parking lot changing
location with the court games area.
Mr. Brandeen will relay this information to the planners.
The Commission recommended to reappoint Ms. Gates to the Long Range Planning
Commission.
Motion- Ms. Reid: Moved to recommend to reappoint Ms. Gates
as the Park & Recreation Advisory Commission's
representative to the City's Long Range Planning
Commission.
Second- Ms. Smith
Motion carried: Unanimous
Mr. Brandeen mentioned that all 1985 park development is in limbo due to the
Becker Park development. Ms. Smith asked if a fountain or a community bill-
board could be included in the Becker Park Plan.
Mr. Brandeen mentioned some upcoming Department activites such as the summer
supper hour swim classes. Ms. Smith suggested having a "Swim & Slim" class
for parents at the same time. She also suggested a "Happy Hour" swim to buy
1 admission and get one free during a specific time period.
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Mr. Karnowski reminded members of the 2 openings on the Commission. Mr. Rygg
said that there is an article in the January newsletter.
The meeting was adjourned at 8:50 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Gene Hackett
Recorder
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CRYSTAL PARK AND -RECREATION ADVISORY COMMISSION
February 6, 1985
The regular meeting of the Crystal Park and Recreation Advisory Commission
was called to order at 7:10 p.m. by Chairperson Stu Stockhaus. Members
present were: Mr. Grimes, Ms. Gates, Ms. Smith, Mr. Hoffmann and Mr. Karn-
owski. Also present were: Mr. Smothers, councilman; Mr. Rygg, council liai-
son; and, Mr. Brandeen and Ms. Hackett from the department staff.
The minutes were approved as sent.
Mr. Smothers made a presentation in regards to the Commission considering
renaming Becker Park to Elmer C. Hartwig Park (or Hartwig's Bungalow Park).
Mr. Hartwig sponsored many adult and youth teams in a variety of sports. Mr.
Smothers added that a new name would suit the redeveloped park and surrounding
area. Mr. Rygg added that the deed agreement for the land says nothing
regarding a name change - it only pertains to the land size. Ms. Gates told
the Commission that a policy statement regarding naming of park facilities
was established by an earlier Commission.
Ms. Gates read the policy statement in regards to renaming parks. There are
3 reasons for changing the name of the park:
1) A change in the nature of the neighborhood.
2) Donation of a significant portion of money to the development
of the park (50%) by person or persons.
3) Service above and beyond the call of duty (10 years of service with
a two-year waiting period).
To rename a facility within a park:
1) Donation of 50% of the facility cost.
2) Community Service.
Ms. Smith suggested that a facility within the park be named for Mr. Hartwig -
a fountain, amphitheatre, community billboard or the shelter building. Mr.
Karnowski felt that there were other people in the community that have sponsored
teams and wondered where the line would be drawn. Mr. Stockhaus added that
he didn't want to make the decision of who sponsored the most teams. Ms. Gates
felt that volunteering time as a coach was as important as being the sponsor.
Mr. Karnowski said that Becker Park is a well recognized name in the area and
that it should remain Becker Park.
Mr. Stockhaus wondered about a possible donation of an item on the park, or
if one of the facilities could be named for Mr. Hartwig. Mr. Rygg thought
that Mr. Hartwig might consider a donation to a facility (softball fields,
building, etc.).
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Mr. Brandeen and Ms. Gates will meet to further review the policy statement
regarding this topic and make some recommendations at the next regular meeting.
Ms. Hackett reviewed the monthly report, highlighting major activities. Copies
of the year-end Registration Report and the Thorson Year -End Report were
distributed. Ms. Gates asked about the possibility of trying to jointly
organize with District #281 an afterschool intramural program. The school
organized program has faltered and she felt it would be great if the city
could. be involved.
Motion: Ms. Gates - Moved to recommend to explore the options of starting
a pilot intramural program (floor hockey and volley-
ball) at the two Crystal schools in cooperation
between District #281 and Crystal Recreation Depart-
ment, and investigate the formation of a steering
committee to serve as an advisory board in the
venture.
Second - Ms. Smith.
Motion carried-- Unanimous.
The ''Life. Be In It." day was discussed. Ideas to work on include:
Treasure Hunt
Neighborhood Volleyball Tournament
Coloring Contest
Canoe Races
Pepsi/Hot Dog - 25t
Fun Run/Walk
Band
Pony Rides
Celebrity Softball Game
Door Prizes
A committee of Mr. Karnowski, Ms. Reid and Ms. Smith was formed to work out
the details. "Life. Be In It." day will be held Saturday, June 1, 1985.
The Sno Day was reviewed. Suggestions were made to improve the event. Mr.
Hoffmann will meet with the Lions Club in the fall to work on the plans for the
1986 event.
Mr. Brandeen distributed the 1984 pool report. He also discussed the new
evening swim lesson program.
The following summer meeting dates were set:
June 5 - Broadway Park
July 10.- Lions Valley Place Park
August 7 - Crystal Municipal Pool/Grogan Park
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Ms. Smith asked the status of the Restitution Program. Mr. Brandeen said
that he has not had any referrals since summer, but that the program is still
in existence.
Mr. Rygg told the Commission of the Council's discussion concerning the New
Becker Park facilities. He mentioned that the Council was concerned that
the Tot Lot was too close to the railroad tracks which would create a safety
hazard. The Council directed the park planners to look at some more barriers -
such as more fencing, foliage, and berms.
The meeting was adjourned at 8:52 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Gene Hackett
Recorder
CRYSTAL PARK AND RECREATION ADVISORY COMMISSION
March 6, 1985
The regular meeting of the Crystal Park and Recreation Advisory Commisssion
was called to order at 7:06 p.n. by Chairperson Stu Stockhaus. Members present
were: Ms. Gates, Ms. Reid, Mr. Grimes, Mr. Karnowski, Ms. Smith and Mr. Okeson.
Also present were: Mr. Rygg, council liaison, and Mr. Brandeen and Ms. Fackler
from the department staff.
The minutes were approved as sent.
The newly appointed Commission member Elmer Carlson was introduced.
Ms. Fackler and Mr. Brandeen reviewed the monthly report highlighting major
activities.
;he Park Commission discussed the renaming of Becker Park per the request of
Mr. Rollie Smothers Used as a basis for discussion was the 1978 document
"Criteria for establishing the name of Park Facilities in the City of Crystal, MN".
Ms. Gates suggested that we add a clause for naming a facility or park for a
disaster victim within the city.
Mr. Brandeen mentioned Mr. Hartwig's numerous contributions to youth and adult
athletic teams, i.e. softball, baseball, hockey, golf, bowling and his wild
game dinners for the March of Dimes.
Discussion centered on initiating an Honor Roll plaque with a name(s) to be
added on yearly of Crystal residents who have donated time and/or money to
recreational programs.
After much discussion, the Commission suggested to look at a facility within
Becker Park to name after Mr. Hartwig.
Ms. Gates was selected to draft a letter to Mr. Smothers thanking him for
approaching the Commission, but at the present time, Mr. Hartwig does not meet
the criteria for renaming park facilities.
Ms. Gates reported on the Long Range Planning Committee meeting.
Mr. Brandeen passed out the department's recommendations for 1985 Frolics
events and sites. The council has approved the recommendations.
Mr. Rygg informed the commission that Bassett Creek Park as a site for the
Klein Carnival has been tabled by the city council until the March 19 meeting.
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Motion - Ms. Gates: Moved to recommend that the Klein Carnival not be
held in Bassett Creek Park in 1985 while Becker
Park is under construction.
Second: Ms. Reid.
Motion carried: 5 to 3.
Reasons the commission cited as to not have the carnival at Bassett Creek Park
were:
1) The impact of parking on the neighborhood.
2) Damage to the park property by users.
3) Increased amount of time by park personnel needed for clean-up.
4) The proximity of neighborhood homes to Bassett Creek Park.
Mr. Stockhaus mentioned that the Jaycees are no longer connected with the
Frolics Fun Run but that Bob Rasmussen will continue to work on the Frolics
Fun Run through the Fleet Feet Running Club. Mr. Stockhaus offered to be
the liaison with the Fleet Feet Club.
The meeting was adjourned at 9:34 p.m.
Committees met after adjournment.
Respectfully submitted,
Jeanne Fackler, Recorder
CRYSTAL PARK AND RECREATION ADVISORY COMMISSION
April 3, 1985
The regular meeting of the Crystal Park and Recreation Advisory Commission
was called to order at 7:06 p.m. by Chairperson Stu Stockhaus. Members
present were: Mr. Carlson, Mr. Okeson, Mr. Hoffmann, Ms. Gates, Ms. Reid,
Mr. Grimes, Mr. Karnowski and Ms. Smith.
Also present were: Mr. Brandeen and Ms. Hackett from the department staff.
The minutes were approved as sent. A corrected Commission member list will
be mailed to all members.
Ms. Hackett reviewed the monthly report highlighting major activities.
Ms. Gates reported on recent Long Range Planning Commission meetings. The
Commission is currently working on a street repair system to be done by zones.
She also mentioned that part of the Bungalow property will be used for an
easement for the new interchange with County Rd. 10 and Old Highway 52. The
Commission will also be reviewing the various satellite shopping centers
around the city and discussing ways of updating their looks.
Mr. Stockhaus reviewed the City Council meeting regarding the Bassett Creek
site for the carnival. The Council voted against having a carnival, but did
vote funds for a parade and fireworks. Mr. Grimes wondered if future carnivals
would be able to be held at the new Becker Parker. Mr. Brandeen thought that
the area that will be used is about the same square footage as the old Becker
area. Mr. Carlson thought that the planned berming would hinder the semi -
trucks in getting the equipment on the site.
Motion: Mr. Karnowski - Moved to recommend that Douglas Drive
and the 50 car (west) parking lot be
blocked off and used for the 1986
Frolics carnival.
Second - Ms. Gates.
Motion carried - Unanimous.
Ms. Hackett reviewed the March Crystal Frolics Committee meeting and outlined
some of the new events planned. The Commission suggested the possibility
of an "Old Time" Adult Dance at either the K.C. Hall or the Elks that could
be a fund raiser - also, Bingo could be played there. Ms. Hackett will suggest
this to the Frolics Committee.
Mr. Brandeen reviewed the Becker development plan. He is writing a LA14CON
application for construction of the ballfields.
Mr. Karnowski outlined the tentative plans for "Life. Be In It." day on
June 1, 1985. Plans are being made for the following events:
Coloring Contest - color logo or draw ideal park with people
doing something.
Kid's Games
Nature Scavenger Hunt
Music
Magician
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Concessions with Picnic
Firetruck/Bike Licenses
Program registration
Canoe rides (Mr. Brandeen to check on liability)
Other suggestions are:
Celebrity Softball Game
Renaissance Entertainers
Kiddie Rides - sponsored by a civic group
Face Painting - sponsored by a civic group
Cross Trailers Square Dance
Fishing
The events will run from 2-6:00 p.m.
Mr. Brandeen reviewed the proposed Hennepin County Park Reserve Developments
for the Commission.
The meeting was adjourned at 8:25 p.m.
Committee meetings were held following the meeting.
Respectfully submitted,
Gene Hackett
Recorder
CRYSTAL PARK AND RECREATION ADVISORY COMMISSION
May 1, 1985
The regular meeting of the Crystal Park and Recreation Advisory Commission was
called to order at 7:07 p.m. by Vice Chairperson Garry Grimes. Members present
were: Mr. Stockhaus, Mr. Genis, Mr. Hoffmann, Mr. Carlson, Mr. Okeson, Ms. Reid,
Ms. Gates and Mr. Karnowski. Also present were: Mr. Rygg, council liaison,
and Mr. Brandeen and Ms. Hackett from the department staff.
Mr. Genis was introduced to the Commission members.
The minutes were approved as sent.
Ms. Hackett reviewed the monthly report highlighting major activities. Ms. Gates
and Mr. Stockhaus suggested checking into additional Senior training for the
senior exercise instructor. Mr. Stockhaus suggested that George Scarborough
(at the School District) be contacted regarding working with the school adminis-
tration on the Teen Program.
Committee meetings were held.
Long -Range Planning/Facilities: Suggeste6 that money be placed in the
1986 budget request to construct a fitness course at North Lions Park.
They also would like to do a videotape of Bassett Creek Park and the
variety of activities that people participate in.
Motion - Ms. Gates: Moved to recommend to the City
Council that the Parks and Recrea-
tion Department budget monies in
the 1986 Budget Request to develop
a fitness course at North Lions Park.
Public Relations/CATV: Will Film "Life. Be In It." Day and prepare a
a tape on demonstrating the Bassett Creek Fitness Course. Mr. Brandeen
reported that there may be some Cable TV grant money to do some informa-
tional programming.
Special Events: "Life. Be In It." Day was reviewed and approved. Commis-
sion members will be assigned to work at various tasks.
Ms. Gates reported that the city's Long Range Planning Commission is still
working on the format for Street/Sewer repair and Satellite Shopping Areas.
The next Commission meeting will be held at Broadway Park at 7:00 p.m. Mr. Grimes
will distribute flyers. Mr. Stockhaus requested that Mr. Brandeen ask the Police
Department to increase patrolling the park areas - especially Iron Horse and Lee.
He said that vandalism seems to be the main complaint from residents. Mr. Rygg
asked Commissioners to take time to do some picking up when they visit the parks.
Mr. Genis suggested that a police officer attend our neighborhood park meeting
on the 5th.
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Mr. Brandeen announced that Olivet Baptist Church donated $100 to the Department.
The money will be.used towards a purchase of a color TV for the Senior Center.
Mr. Brandeen reported that the District #281 Parks and Recreation Departments
are submitting a proposal to contract with the School District to run the Elemen-
tary Intramural Porgram. He also mentioned that the $5 permit fee may be
abolished.
Mr. Hoffmann and Mr. Genis suggested some type of safety light at the Brunswick
parking lot at Bassett Creek Park. Mr. Brandeen will check into.the cost of this.
The meeting was adjourned at 9:02 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Gene Hackett
Recorder
CRYSTAL PARS. & RECREATION ADVISORY COMMISSION
June 5, 1985
Broadway Park
The regular meeting of the Crystal Park and Recreation Advisory Commission was
called to order at 7:07 p.m. by Chairperson Stu Stockhaus. Members present were:
Ms. Gates, Mr. Grimes, Ms. Smith, Mr. Hoffmann, and Ms. Reid. Also present were:
Mr. Rygg, council liaison, and Mr. Brandeen and Ms. Hackett from the department
staff.
Mr. Stockhaus introduced Commission members and gave Broadway park residents
a background on the purpose of the park meetings.
The minutes were approved as sent.
Ms. Hackett reviewed the monthly report, highlighting major activities.
Steve Holm from the Crystal Police Department was introduced. He reviewed the
list of police calls made to parks. There were 186 calls over an 18 -month period.
He suggested that if residents see kids in the park that look like they are
causing trouble, they should call the police. He said that the police would
rather get the calls and come out to investigate and find nothing, than come
after a crime has been committed.
Mr. Stockhaus wondered if Lee Park was still a problem Mr. Holm reported that
there have been some calls on fireworks and loud music. He added that Robbins -
dale will respond to calls at that area.
Mr. Stockhaus asked Broadway residents for their comments:
1) Liked the new playground equipment. Mr.Brandeen asked residents to
watch for vandalism of equipment.,
2) Mr. Brandeen reviewed the North Lions Park development and the
Becker Park development.
There were no committee reports.
The ''Life. Be In It.'' day was reviewed. Everyone had a good time in spite
of the rain. Ms. Gates suggested a written policy on cancelling/postponing
events such as this. This would be helpful to civic groups who plan to attend.
The Crystal Frolics events were reviewed.
Mr. Brandeen reviewed a proposal submitted by the suburban recreation departments
to School District #281 regarding the reorganization of the District's intramural
program. The suburban recreation departments feel that they can run the program
cheaper and more efficiently than it is now. Carroll Vomhof had made the
request to the departments to submit a proposal. The proposal will be reviewed
by the District staff and the recreation departments will know their decision
sometime soon.
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Ms. Gates reviewed the last Long -Range Planning Commission meeting. The Com-
mission is still studying the street/sewer repair schedule. The other area
that is being examined is the small shopping areas.
Mr. Brandeen told the Commission that the Crystal Hockey Boosters have disbanded.
The traveling program is now combined with the northwest suburbs. The House
League will be run in cooperation with the northwest suburbs with Crystal having
its own teams.
Mr. Brandeen reported that the 1986 budget request is in the final preparation
stages. Major items that have been included are: Items from the Commission's
Long -Range Planning Committee, fitness course at North Lions, and lighting at
Bassett Creek west parking lot.
Mr. Grimes announced that the Cooper Girls Softball team won the state tournament.
Also a friend of his had run a metal detector over Broadway Park and had picked up
several items of trash.
The next meeting will be held July 10 at 7:00 p.m. at Lions Valley Place Park.
The meeting was adjourned at 8:23 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Gene Hackett
Recorder,
CRYSTAL PARK & RECREATION ADVISORY COMMISSION
July 10, 1985
Lions Valley Place Park
The regular meeting of the Crystal Park and Recreation Advisory Commission was
called to order at 7:09 by Chairperson Stu Stockhaus. Members present were:
Ms. Reid, Mr. Hoffmann, Mr. Grimes, Ms. Gates, Mr. Genis, and Mr. Karnowski.
Also present were: Mr. Rygg, council liaison, Mr. Brandeen and Ms. Hackett
from the department staff and Harold Sjebbostad from BRW. Also present were
residents from the Lions Valley Place Park area.
Mr. Stockhaus introduced Commission members and gave Lions Valley Place Park
residents a background on the purpose of the park meetings.
The minutes were approved as sent.
Ms. Hackett reviewed the monthly report, highlighting major activites. Ms. Gates
suggested using summer school to publicize city events.
Mr. Sjebbostad reviewed 2 items for the Commission:
1. Fence proposal for the railroad property bordering the park (Becker).
2. Placement of restroom facilities at Becker Park. Mr. Sjebbostad outlined
the two restroom possibilities.
Motion: Mr. Genis: Moved to recommend that the Temporary
Toilet Enclosure proposal that includes
two locations on the west side of the park,
two toilets per location, and the screening
of the enclosure be accepted for the Becker
Park development.
Second: Ms. Reid.
Motion carried: Unanimous.
The current status of the fencing was discussed. Mr. Genis thought that the
Burlington Northern Railroad would cooperate with the city on the fence. This
would eliminate the need for two fences and the hard -to -maintain "no man's land"
between the two fences.
Motion: Mr. Genis: Moved to recommend to instruct a representative
from the city to contact the Burlington
Northern to discuss the status of the fence
bordering the railroad and park property, the -
city would upgrade and maintain the fence to
be constructed at a 6 foot height and have
slatting matertal
Second: Ms. Gates.
Motion carried: Unanimous.
There was discussion regarding the continuation of the fence.along the Brutger
property. There was much concern regarding the flow of people between the housing
project and the park. Commissioner Genis felt a fence would deter parents from
sending their kids to the park unsupervised. The fence would separate the park
and public boundary and would keep people from cutting through the housing to
get to the park. A fence would keep park litter from blowing into the housing
property (during special events).
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Motion: Mr. Genis: Moved to recommend that the HRA explore
the extension of fencing bordering the
park and the Brutger property of .at
least 325 feet with the possibility of
fencing the whole boundary between the
two properties. The fencing should be
of similar type as the east side and
Have appropriate gateways.
Second: Mr. Hoffman.
Motion carried: Unanimous.
Lions Valley Place residents made the following comments:
-Pleased with park.
-P.A. is sometimes too loud.
-Cars parked on Jersey - north of park. There are no "No Parking"
signs on Jersey.
-Could the city purchase the vacant lot north of the park to make
an additional parking lot?
Crystal Frolics events were reviewed. A "Taste of Crystal" festival was suggested.
The city Long -Range Planning Commission will not meet until September.
Mr. Brandeen reviewed the 1986 Budget Request he made to the city manager.
Mr. Brandeen asked the Commission to review the letter sent to the Council by
Mr. Joselyn regarding the elimination of the bike routes. Ms. Gates felt that
if the pathways are not being used, they should be discontinued.
Motion: Mr. Genis: Moved to recommend that the bike routes
be eliminated.
Second: Mr. Grimes.
Motion carried: Unanimous.
Mr. Genis mentioned that the bikeriders at Bassett Creek Park pathways have
been driving recklessly. Mr. Brandeen will contact the police regarding sending
the bike patrol to the park. Mr. Brandeen also suggested offering biking classes
for older residents.
Next meeting: Wednesday, August 7
7:00 P.M.
Crystal Municipal Pool
The meeting was adjourned at 8:44 p.m.
Respectfully submitted
Gene Hackett
Recorder
CRYSTAL PARK & RECRLATTOtr COMMISSION
August 7, 1985
Crystal Municipal Pool
The regular meeting of the Crystal Park and Recreation Advisory Commission
was called to order at 7:03 by Chairperson Stu Stockhaus. Members present were:
Ms. Smith, Ms. Reid, Mr. Grimes, Mr. Okeson, Mr. Hoffmann, Mr. Carlson, Mr.
Karnowski and Ms. Reid. Also present were: Mr. Brandeen and Ms. Hackett from
the department staff. Also present were residents from the pool area and Steve
Holm from the Crystal Police Dept.
Mr. Stockhaus introduced Commission and staff members and gave the pool area
residents a background on the purpose of the neighborhood meetings.
The minutes were approved as sent.
Ms. Hackett reviewed the monthly report, highlighting major activities. Mr.
Carlson suggested starting a golf instruction program for youth and adults.
Mr. Stockhaus suggested that the communities combine their adult tennis lesson
programs. Ms. Smith noted the drop in Yunker Park playground attendance. Ms.
Hackett explained that that area of the city has been dropping attendance all
year and that the youth population in that area seems to be of the junior high
age.
Residents from the pool area had the following concerns:
- Why does the pool close for the season on August 18? It should be open
longer into August.
Mr. Brandeen explained that there is a significant drop in pool attendance
after mid-August, and it just isn't cost effective to remain open with such
low attendance.
- Could the pool open later in June and stay open into late August to run the
same number of weeks or could the late August weeks have smaller operating
hours (4 hours/day)?
Mr. Brandeen explained that most of the operating costs are ongoing for 24 hrs.
a day (heat, utilities, chemicals). These items are needed whether or not
there are people in the pool. Also, staffing could be a problem as many
college students must go back to school in late August. Mr. Brandeen will
bring August attendance figures to the next meeting to show how August attend-
ance drops yearly.
- Possibility of a non-resident charge for non-resident season tickets or
increasing the cost of all season tickets.
Mr. Brandeen stated at a non-resident fee would not be worthwhile, as the
income derived from it would be negligible. Mr. Hoffmann requested a
breakdown by neighborhood of season ticket holders to see where the people
are coming from.
Another idea to increase pool attendance included starting a -shuttle bus
system to the pool from daycare centers/homes.
Steve Holm, Crystal Police Department, reported on police calls to the parks
and, specifically, the pool. He suggested that better lighting would lessen
the vandalism done to park property. Mr. Stockhaus asked if there was any
gang activity in Crystal. Mr. Holm reported that there wasn't any at this
time, but it is expected to increase by the 1990's. Mr. Holm suggested a
prevention program that would involve working with the kids to instill a sense
of pride in themselves and the community. Ms. Gates asked about the success
of the bike patrol program. Mr. Holm replied that the statistics are not
final yet but bike thefts are down. Ms. Smith suggested more publicity on
the program through the city newsletter.
Ms. Hackett reviewed the Crystal Frolics events for the Commission. Ms. Smith
offered to join the Crystal Frolics Committee.
Mr. Brandeen reported on the City Council action taken regarding the Becker
.Park and other motions made at the July meeting:
1. Motion regarding temporary toilets - Council approved.
2. Motion regarding letter to BN RR - Mr. Irving has written a letter
and has not received an answer.
3. Motion regarding Brutger/Park fence - No action taken.
4. Motion regarding elimination of bike routes - Council approved.
The Commission was reminded that the next meeting will be held September 4
at City Hall.
The meeting was adjourned at 8:18 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Gene Hackett
Recorder
Following the meeting, the Commission toured the pool facility.
CRYSTAL PARK & RECREATION ADVISORY COMMISSION
September 4, 1985
The regular meeting of the Crystal Park and Recreation Advisory
was called to order at 7:09 p.m. by Chairperson Stu Stockhaus.
were: Mr. Grimes, Mr. Okeson, Mr. Hoffmann, Mr. Karnowski, Ms.
Carlson. Also present were: Mr. Rygg, council liaison, and Mir.
Ms. Hackett from the department staff.
The minutes were approved as sent.
Commission
Members present
Smith and Mr.
Brandeen and
Ms. Hackett reviewed the monthly report, highlighting major activities. Ideas
for more publicity for programs included: Flyers to the Welcome Wagon, Summer
School, Vacation Bible Schools,.Day Care Centers, Posters in stores, Advertising
in local newspapers and utilization of Brochures.
The summer meetings in the parks were reviewed. Commissioners felt that all of
the meetings were successful and they should continue these meetings for next
year. Mr. Stockhaus felt it is important for the Commissioners to meet the
people and hear their comments. Ms. Smith suggested that the Commission have
an open meeting once per year - a "Community Forum" - possibly in the winter or
spring. Ideas for this meeting include inviting Steve Holm (Crystal Police), a
guest speaker, forum, and, if held in the spring; registrations could be taken.
The Public Relations Committee will discuss this further.
There was no report on the City Long Range Planning Committee.
Mr. Brandeen reviewed the proposed Becker Park building layout and activity areas.
Mr. Stockhaus wondered if the Becker development would affect Capital Improvement
for playground equipment as listed in the 5 -Year Plan. Mr. Brandeen replied
that he had put the 1986 5 -Year Plan items in the 1986 budget request submitted
to the City Manager and the Council. Mr. Stockhaus felt that the Becker plan
is wonderful, but his concern is that this project will go at the expense of
the other parks; the Commission wants to show thaty they are responsive to all
areas of the city and the continuation of the renovation of playground equipment
shows this responsiveness. Mr. Rygg replied that the Becker development shows
response to the north end of town. He added that the other Capital Improvements
may be cut.
Motion: Mr. Karnowski - Moved to recommend that the Park & Recreation
Advisory Commission enthusiastically approves
the direction of the proposed Becker Park
building layout and programs, given our city's
equitable commitment to the improvement and
maintenance of all city parks as provided in
° our 5 -Year Pian, including appropriate pro-
motional billboards..
Second - Ms. Smith.
Motion Approved - 6 aye (Hoffmann, Grimes, Smith, Stockhaus,
Karnowski, Carlson.) 1 nay (Okeson).
The Commission discussed a carnival site for the 1986 Crystal Frolics. Mr.
Hoffmann wondered about the use of the street between the Crystal Gallery and
the park. Other discussion concerned an area within the park for the carnival
site.
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Motion: Mr. Carlson - Moved to recommend ''Whereas the carnival is
an important part of the Crystal Frolics cele-
bration and is an integral part of the Frolics
activities, an area of Becker Park should be
reserved for the 1986 carnival, if construction
permits.''
Second - Mr. Okeson.
Motion approved - Unanimous.
Mr. Brandeen reviewed various reports dealing with pool attendance, income,
10 -year attendance. He also reviewed a map of season ticket buyers. There
is a major upward trend in lesson registration and season ticket sales. Mr.
Brandeen reported that he has requested to raise the fees for Daily Admission
and Season Tickets. It was suggested to offer a coupon for a free swim at the
pool to new residents (through Welcome Wagon).
Mr. Stockhaus reviewed the city Commission policy on missing meetings. The
policy states that Commissioners should not miss any more than three meetings
per year. Mr. Genis was appointed to the Commission in March and has attended
only two meetings. Mr. Grimes suggested that Mr. Genis be sent a letter remind-
ing him of his obligation to the Commission. Ms. Smith suggested that new
Commissioners be sent a ''welcome letter'' explaining this policy. Mr. Stockhaus
thought that the missed meeting policy should be repeated to newly appointed
candidates before they agree to serve as a Commissioner. Mr. Stockhaus will
send a letter to Mr. Genis asking him to respond before the next Commission
meeting.
The meeting was adjouned at 9:16 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Gene Hackett
Recorder
CRYSTAL PARK & RECREATION ADVISORY COMMISSION
October 2, 1935
The reoular meeting of the Crystal Park and Recreation Advisory Commission
was called to order at 7:18 p.m. by Chairperson Stu Stockhaus. Members present
were: Mr. Carlson, Mr. Karnowski, Ms. Smith, Mr. Hoffmann, Ms. Reid, Mr. Grimes,
Mr. Genis, and Ms. Gates. Also present were: Ms. Langsdorf attending for
Mr. Rygg - council liaison, and Mr. Brandeen and Ms. Hackett from the department
staff.
The minutes were approved as sent.
Ms. Hackett reviewed the monthly report, highlighting major activities.
Mr. Brandeen and Ms. Hackett reviewed the presentation that was made by the
staff to the City Council. The Commission viewed a videotape. Mr. Brandeen
reviewed the location of the parks, the types of parks, and the items needed
to complete the 5 -year plan at each specific park. The Commission thought
that the MAC Park facilities should be advertised more - perhaps in the Post.
Ns. Gates commented on the large number of children moving into the new housing
by the Soo Line property. She voiced her concern regarding a lack of a play -
field area for that neighborhood and the two nearby playfields are located
across Old Highway 52.
Motion: Ms. Gates - Moved to recommend that the city Long Range
Planning Commission study the possibility regarding
safe accessibility of some type (pedestrian bridge,
etc.) from the east side of Old Highway 52 to the
playfields (Becker and Welcome) on the west side of
the highway.
Second - Mr. Genis.
Motion Carried - Unanimous.
Ms. Hackett reviewed the program portion of the Department citing a lack of
gym space for adult programming as a major problem for expansion. The Robbins -
dale Senior High building was discussed as an alternative site for programming.
Motion: Mr. Reid - Moved to recommend that the School District #281
administration be asked to explore the possibility
that some type of community use be considered for
the Robbinsdale Nigh School building (whether or not
the building is sold) with interested cities sharing
the extra utility costs above the current maintenance
costs.
Second - Ms. Gates.
Motion carried - Unanimous.
The review of the Advisory Commission By -Laws was moved to the next regular
meeting.
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Mr. Brandeen reviewed the September Crystal Frolics meeting. The 1985 events
were reviewed and the proposed 1986 events were discussed. Ms. Gates wondered
if construction will permit holding a carnival; and, if it didn't, would the new
Florida Avenue be able to be blocked off to hold the carnival. Mr. Brandeen
has been approached by the Fireman regarding the cost of erecting a permanent
shelter at Becker. They mentioned this shelter could house the beer tent
during the Frolics and then be used for other events picnicking, etc. Mr.
Karnowski wondered if such a building would mean the carnival would always be
held at Becker. Ms. Gates voiced her concern regarding the wear -and -tear on
the park if the Frolics were permanently located on the east side of the park
rather than the street (Florida Ave.) and west parking area. Mr. Karnowski
thought that barricading Florida was the best solution. Mr. Stockhaus mentioned
that the carnival has to go.someplace and that this may be the best alternative.
Mr. Brandeen summarized the grant program that had been sponsored in the past
by the Optimist Club. He added that currently the Department has received
some requests for sponsorships for children to participate,in activities. Ms.
Gates felt that the Optimists should be contacted again in regards to this
program. Mr. Stockhaus suggested the criteria for qualifying should be:
Receiving free or reduced price lunches. Ms. Gates will check into the Y's
program. Mr. Carlson felt that some type of program should be set up so that
no child should be denied participation due to income. Ms. Langsdorf suggested
publicizing the program on cable and city newsletter. This matter will be
discussed in more detail at next month's meeting.
Mr. Brandeen reported that the Department's Halloween Color Contest will be
held again providing a suitable location could be found to post the entries.
Mr. Grimes asked about attending the MRPA Conference. The following members
indicated an interest in attending: Mr. Grimes, Mr. Hoffmann, Ms. Smith, Mr.
Carlson, Mr. Genis, Ms. Reid and Mr. Karnowski. More conference details will
be discussed at the November meeting. The conference is: November 20, 21, 22
in St. Paul.
Meeting adjourned at 9:16 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Gene Hackett
Recorder
CRYSTAL PARK & RECREATION ADVISORY COMMISSION
November 6, 1985
The regular meeting of the Crystal Park and Recreation Advisory Commission
was called to order at 7:09 p.m. by Vice Chairperson Garry Grimes. Members
present were: Mr. Hoffmann, Ms. Reid, Ms. Smith, Mr. Okeson, Mr. Karnowksi,
Mr. Carlson, Ms. Gates, Mr. Genis. Also, present were Mr. Rygg, council
liaison who attended after the City Council meeting, and Mr. Brandeen and Ms.
Hackett from the department staff.
The minutes were approved with a typo correction.
Ms. Hackett reviewed the monthly report, highlighting major activities. Ms.
Reid remarked on the late arrival of the city newsletter citing the fact
that some events had taken place prior to receiving the newsletter.
Mr. Brandeen reviewed the Commission By-laws with the proposed changes.
Motion: Mr. Genis - Moved to recommend to the City Council that
section 305.48 of the city code regarding
commissions be changed to allow a commission
member to serve four consecutive terms.
Second - Mr. Carlson
Motion Carried - Unanimous
Motion: Mr. Karnowski - Moved to recommend that the commission members
needed for a quorum be changed from six to 500
of the membership.
Second - Ms. Sari th
Motion Carried - Unanimous
Discussion centered around compiling a written list of expectations of new
Commissioners. These expectations would include attendance, committments
for Park and Recreation events, other expectations of the Commissioners, etc.
This would be in addition to the booklet that new members receive.
Motion: Ms. Smith - Moved to recommend that the updated, amended and
revised Park and Recreation Advisory Commission
By -Laws be accepted and approved.
Second - Mr. Genis
Motion Carried - Unanimous
Ms. Gates reported on the City Long Range Planning Commission. The Commission
has been reviewing the building projects and the Bass Lake Road development
as well as the strip shopping centers.
The activity assistance application was discussed. Ms. Gates will revise
the application form. Mr. Brandeen will contact the Elks and the Lions re-
garding sponsorship of this program.- especially since the Optimists, who
sponsored in the past, have disbanded. Mr. Hoffmann suggested that the city
should waive the registration fee for hardship cases if no sponsor is found.
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Methods to advertise the program were discussed. These include cable TV,
newsletter, and flyers.
Mr. Brandeen told the Commission he had been approached by the Robbinsdale
Park and Recreation Department regarding establishment of a joint season
ticket that would include the Crystal Pool and the Robbinsdale Community
Center. The city would receive $30 for the Crystal Pool Ticket portion of
this combined ticket. The commission felt that this promotion would be
beneficial to the city. Formal request for the adoption of this program
would be made by the Robbinsdale City Manager to the Crystal City Manager.
Motion: Mr. Genis - Moved to recommend to work with Robbinsdale
to explore this joint ticket proposal and
then to go ahead with the planning process
as long as Crystal does not lose any swim
ticket fees.
Second - Mr. Hoffman
Motion Carried - Unanimous
Mr. Brandeen thought that Robbinsdale would want Crystal to do some promotion
on this idea. Mr. Genis said that this project would be good for joint com-
munication between cities. Ms. Gates thought.that it would avoid some
duplication of services.
Ms. Smith reviewed the last Frolics Committee meeting. A tentative schedule
of events has been made. The carnival site is still undecided. A Publicity
Committee for the Crystal Frolics will include: Ms. Smith, Mr. Karnowski,
Ms. Reid and Mr. Grimes.
Mr. Brandeen reminded Commissioners of the upcorTA ng commission elections in
December. He also reviewed the MRPA Conference registrations for those Com-
missioners attending.
Mr. Rygg read a City Council resolution recognizing Mr. Brandeen as the winner
of the MRPA Distinguished Service Award. Commission members each received a
copy of the resolution.
The meeting was adjourned at 8:20 pm.
Respectfully Submitted,
Gene Hackett
Recorder
CRYSTAL PARK & RECREATION ADVISORY COMMISSION
December 4, 1985
The regular meeting of the Crystal Park and Recreation Advisory Commission
was called to order at 7:09 p.m. by Chairperson Stuart Stockhaus. Members
present were: Ms. Reid, Mr. Carlson, Mr. Okeson, Mr. Genis, and Mr. Karnowski.
Also present were: Mr. Rygg, council liaison, and Mr. Brandeen and Ms. Hackett
from the department staff.
The minutes were approved as sent.
Ms. Hackett reviewed the monthly report, highlighting major activities.
The final draft of the,by-laws were again reviewed by the commission. No
further changes were noted.. Mr. Stockhaus asked if council action was needed
for members to serve four (4) consecutive terms. Mr. Brandeen stated that
since it was a resolution established by the city council that council action
would be needed.
Discussion on the election of officers was held.
Motion: Ms. Reid - Moved to recommend that the commission retain the same
officers for 1986:
Chairperson - Mr. Stockhaus
Vice Chairperson - Mr. Grimes
Secretary - Mr. Karnowski
Second - Mr. Okeson
Motion carried - Unanimous
The commission also discussed various methods of changing or improving the
election process for next year. It was recommended that this agenda item be
included on the November 1986 agenda.
Commissioners attending the M`RP A Conference in St. Paul gave short reports on
the various sessions they attended. They all felt that the Conference was very
interesting and educational.
Mr. Rygg gave a short report on city council action regarding the Crystal Frolics.
He mentioned that the city will pay up to $10,000 plus insurance for the parade
and fire works. Also, various sites were suggested for the carnival such as
the area west of Target and 47th and Xenia.
The annual Sno Days program, scheduled on February 2, at Valley Place Park was®
presented to the commission. Various. different events were suggested: hockey
tournament or playday involving just Crystal teams, adult broomball, cross
country race, ski team demonstration.
The meeting was adjourned at 8:28 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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Edward C. Brandeen
Recorder