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1987 PRC MinutesCRYSTAL PARK AND RECREATION ADVISORY COMMISSION January 7, 1987 The regular meeting of the Crystal Park and Recreation Advisory Commission was called to order at 7:36 p.m. by Chairperson Garry Grimes. Members present were: Ms. Reid, Ms: Veech, Mr. Stockhaus, Mr. Hoffmann, Mr. Carlson, and Ms. Pitts. Also present were Ms. Hackett and Mr. Brandeen from the department staff and Mr. Smothers, council liaison. The minutes were approved as sent. Ms. Hackett reviewed the monthly report highlighting major activities. Committee reports were heard: Long Range - Mr. Hoffmann reviewed the discussion held in this committee. He as about the status of the request to the Council regarding the 1987 --� portion of the 5 Year Plan. Mr. Genis replied that the City Long Range Planning Commission is trying to develop a city wide plan so that all requests will be reviewed by the City Long Range Planning Commission before submission to ithe city council. Public Relations-- Ms. Reid reported that several ideas are being considered to advertise the Becker program and the Frolics. Ms. Reid is working with the Frolics Committee to write a Frolics Fund Raising letter. Mr. Smothers reported that the City Council approved allocations of $10,000 for the Frolics. This committee also talked about cable programming. Special Events - The Snow Fun Day plan was reviewer by Mr. Stockhaus. The name will be -changed to: Winter Fun Day with alternate activities planned in case of no snow. The Lions and JC's will help work. Commission members to work are: Ms. Reid, Ms.- Pitts, Mr. Hoffmann, Mr. Grimes, Mr. Carlson, and Mr. Stockhaus. Mr. Genis reported earlier on the Long Range Planning Commission. He also reported on a ''Celebrate Parks'' day sponsored by MRPA in February. The Commission discussed recommending an appointment to the Long Range Planning Commission. Motion: Mr. Carlson - moved to recommend that Burt Genis be appointed to represent the Park and Recreation Advisory Commission on the Long Range Planning Commission. Second - Mr. Stockhaus Motion carried - Unanimous Mr. Brandeen reviewed the 1986 pool income and expense report. Mr. Gen is reported that he had contacted the Minnesota Orchestra regarding playing at Becker. The fee is $15,500. He will give the information to Mr. Brandeen who will bring it to the Arts Committee meeting. Mr. Smothers gave Mr. Brandeen a check for $1,000 for North Lions Park. This is the final installment for 1986. Mr. Genis reported that people walking their dogs have been threatened by walkers at Bassett Creek Park. He voiced a concern regarding the congestion that does occur in the park. The possibility of either wideninc the pathways or making separate pathways for walkers and bikers way mentioned. Mr. Grimes asked the Commission for their views on the Twin Lake property currently owned by the city. Most commissioners acknowledged that the property is very narrow and difficult for development and there is lack of parking on site. Mr. Smothers said that the Council asked the city attorney for clarifications on purchase of the land by adjoining property owners. The meeting was adjourned at 9:10 p.m. Respectfully submitted Gene Hackett CRYSTAL PARK AND RECREATION ADVISORY COMMISSION February 4, 1987 The regular meeting of the Crystal Park and Recreation Advisory Commission was called to order at 7:04 p.m. by Chairperson Garry Grimes. Members present were: Mr. Sochaki, Ms. Reid, Mr. Stockhaus, Mr. Carlson, Ms. Pitts, and Ms. Veech. Also present were: Mr. Smothers, council liaison, and Mr. Brandeen and Ms. Hackett from the department staff. The minutes were approved as sent. Mr. Smothers presented Mr. Brandeen with a check for $1,000 for North Lions Park. Mr. Sochaki donated a bocce ball set to the department. Ms. Hackett reviewed the monthly report highlighting major activities. Winter Fun Day was reviewed. Mr. Carlson suggested that the hockey showcase be put on the regular hockey schedule and that the games count as part of the regular season. Additional suggestions include posters in each building, a time schedule of events posted in the Lions Valley Place building and having the awards filled out except for names. The event will be held on the fourth Sunday of January in 1988. Everyone thought that the day went well. Mr. Carlson presented an ad from "Let's Play Hockey" magazine regarding a bubble hockey arena for sale. He felt that such a facility could be an asset to Crystal and that it could be used on a year-round basis for: hockey, indoor soccer, tennis, summer"hockey and ice rental. The purchase price is $40,000 for the equipment. Mr. Grimes asked if Mr. Carlson had any information on the age and condition of the equipment or on operating costs. Mr. Carlson does not have additional information but will call if the commission thinks it should be pursued. Motion - Ms. Reid: Moved that Mr. Carlson call Deerfield, IL to obtain further information regarding the hockey arena for sale. Second - Mr. Sochaki. Motion carried - Unanimous. Mr. Brandeen reviewed the Crystal Frolics layout for Becker Park. Currently, 22,000 sq. ft. are available which is 5,000 sq. ft. less than used last year at Welcome Park-. Access to the Crystal Gallery, First Minnesota and the south parking lot is needed. Ms. Reid asked about the senior building land availability. Mr. Brandeen thought this land would not be available because of construction. Mr. Smothers reminded the commission that a site is needed that can accommodate the tents for beer and.bingo - these tents have stakes to be pounded into the ground. Mr. Stockhaus said that he had seen tents put up on asphalt that used sandbags. Ms: Reid suggested that the Becker west parking lot be used as --�� additional space. Mr. Smothers added that parking is at a premium at any civic function in any town and that people are used to it. He also said that CP&R Advisory Comm. Minutes p• 2 Klein really can't send back part of his carnival, as he contracts with the concessioners for the season. Mr..Carlson thought_that the Frolics should have use of the west parking lot since they have been curtailed the last two years due to Becker construction. Mr. Brandeen reminded the commission that he had told the council that the carnival may have to be cut back after Becker was completed. Ms. Veech expressed a concern about handicap parking spaces if the west parking lot was not available. Mr. Stockhaus felt the best way to protect the park was to give up the parking lot. Mr. Brandeen said if he knew the exact square footage the carnival needed, it would help. Last year, the carnival just used one side of the street (47th); this year booths could go on both sides because of the wider street. Mr. Smothers will call Klein about square footage. Motion: Mr. Carlson - Moved to recommend to the council that the West Becker Parking parking lot be added to the space avail- able for the Crystal Frolics. Second - Mr. Sochaki. Motion carried - Unanimous. Mr. Brandeen reviewed the financial arrangement that -Whiz Bang Days has to finance their celebration - 25 of the net from all the organizations involved goes to the Whiz Bang Committee. Robbinsdale does not have to solicit the businesses for funds because of this arrangement. Mr. Stockhaus stafed that some money should go back into the Frolics celebration. Motion: Mr. Carlson - Moved to recommend to the council that the Frolics Com- mittee look into an overall financial plan that would include a percentage of the net sales to be charged to all groups participating to to finance future Frolics celebrations. Second - Mr. Stockhaus. Motion carried - Unanimous. The commission reviewed the Frolics fundraising letter written by M.s. Reid. Mr. Stockhaus said to emphasize the advantages to the businesses. Mr. Smothers will get ad prices from the Post to include in the letter. The letter will include the names of all civic groups. Summer meetings will be held at: June 3 - Becker July 1 - Thorson August 5 - Crystal Highlands September 2 - Forest CP&R Advisory Comm. Minutes P. 3 Mr. Smothers reviewed the Thorson lease situation. The city would like to extend the lease until the year 2000 with a three-year notice. The school board is discussing this matter. Ms. Reid suggested constructing a putting green at Thorson. Mr. Brandeen informed the commission that all department heads are making presentations beginning February 10 to the Long Range Planning Commission with their five-year plans. Mr. Grimes suggested contacting Arnold's Restaurant regarding a car show at Becker. They sponsor a 50's car show that could be held at Becker. The meeting was adjourned at 8:51 P.M. Respectfully submitted Gene Hackett Recorder CRYSTAL PARK AND RECREATION ADVISORY COMMISSION Murch 4, 1987 The regular meeting of the Crystal Park and Recreation Advisory Commission was called to order at 7:10 p.m. by Chairperson Garry Grimes. Members present were: Ms. Reid, Mr. Hoffmann, Mr. Stockhaus, Mr. Sochacki, Ms. Saunders, Ms. Veech, and Ms. Pitts. Also present were: Mr. Smothers, council liaison, and Mr. Brandeen and Ms. Hackett from the department staff. Jane]] Saunders, the new commission member was introduced. The minutes were approved with the correction in spelling of Mr. Sochacki'-, nam(-. Ms. Hackett reviewed the monthly report highlighting major activities. Ms. Reid reviewed the last Crystal Frolics Committee meeting. Currently, the committee is considering a proposal for each group to donate 25 per cent of their profits to a Frolics fund that would be used to finance next year's celebration. She also told of a publicity brochure to be distributed through the POST. This brochure would highlight Crystal's history as well as Frolics events. It would be financed through the sale of ads by the POST. Mr. Stockhaus thought that the brochure would make a good item for local schools since it would have Crystal's history. Ms. Reid informed the commission that Miss Crystal will ride in this year's Aquatennial Parade on the Crystal float. She asked the commission for any ideas for the Frolics Parade Grand Marshal. Mr. Grimes reported on the MRPA Board/Commission Steering Committee meeting. The Steering Committee is considering several topics for group meetings. The April 15 meeting will have "User's Fees" as its topic. The commission diSCUSSed the possibility of a tour of Becker during the Fall Conference. Mr. Smothers presented a check for the 5th payment for the exercise course at North Lions Park. Mr. Brandeen told the commission about his presentation to the City Long Range Planning Commission. The city commission will hear each major department then prioritize the city's needs. Ms. Hackett reviewed the Performing Arts Committee meeting. There has been response to the fund-raising letter from local businesses. An individual con- tribution campaign will be featured in the newsletter. The plans for the Dedi- cation Day are being finalized. The program will be in the newsletter. Mr. Brandeen informed the commission that the VFW donated $1,000 for the Senior Center. Mr. Smothers asked if the Lions could be listed asthe sponsor of the fitness course on the sign for the course. He also mentioned that the school district wants to sell Thorson to the city. Mr. Grimes mentioned that he had talked to Arnold's Hamburger Grill in regards to sponsoring a Becker Park concert. They may even hold their car show at Becker or at Arnold's in conjunction with the concert. CP&R P• 2 Mr. Sochacki told Mr. Brandeen that there has been some vandalism at MAC Park. There are boards missing from the bridge and people have been dumping trash. Mr. Brandeen thought that an Eagle Scout could work on MAC Park for a project. Ms. Reid asked the status of the bubble hockey rink. Mr. Carlson was not in attendance so there was no report. The meeting was adjourned at 8:14 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Gene Hackett Recorder Crystal Park And Recreation Advisory Commission April 1, 1987 The regular meeting of the Crystal Park and Recreation Advisory Commission was called to order at 7:06 p.m. by Chairperson Garry Grimes. Members present were: Mr. Stockhaus, Mr. Carlson, Ms. Reid, Ms. Saunders, Mr. Hoffmann, Mr. Genis, and Ms. Pitts. Also present were: Mr. Smothers, council liaison; and Mr. Brandeen and Ms. Hackett from the department staff.. - The minutes were approved as corrected by Mr. Grimes. Ms. Hackett reviewed the monthly report highlighting major activities. Ms. Reid summarized the last Crystal Frolics Committee meeting. She reported that the 25% proposal in which all organizations would contribute 25% of their net income to the Frolics Committee has not been voted on yet. A copy of the brochure for the Frolics was shown. Raffle tickets to help sponsor the queen contest were distributed to Commission members. FIs. Hackett reviewed the Arts Committee meeting. The Becker Park Dedication Day ceremony was reviewed. Mr. Brandeen reported that approximately $8,000 has been raised from donations from businesses and individuals. Mr. Smothers reported that the Lions Club might be interested in selling some type of commemorative mug the Centennial/Becker Park grand opening. Mr. Genis reported on the city's Long Range Planning Commission meeting. The Commission is still working on developing a comprehensive 5 year plan. Mr. Hoffmann wondered if the Long Range Planning Commission was ready to make their final report. He felt that the Council should give the Long Range Planning Commission a timeline. He added that The Park and Recreation Commission has had a-5 year plan written and organized for quite some time, and all capital improvements have been put on hold while the Long Range Commission tries to organize everything. Mr. Genis felt that the Long Range Planning Commission should have their report ready by summer. Mr. Stockhaus and Mr. Hoffmann expressed that they were tired of waiting especially since park improvements have been on hold for 3 years. Ms. Reid suggested going to the Council and telling them how the Commisssion feels. Mr. Genis suggested waiting until summer and see what happens. Mr. Hoffmann asked Mr. Genis to express the Park and Recreation Advisory Commissions feelings to the Long Range Planning Commission. Mr. Brandeen and Ms. Hackett asked for helpers for the Easter Egg Hunt. Mr. Brandeen told the Commission of the Flower Planting Contest to be held on Bass Lake Road. Organizations for youth and adults are invited to participate. The city will furnish the flowers and planting soil. Plantings will be made Clay 16 and 17. The membership roster was updated. t1r. Genis asked about dredging the Bassett Creek Fond as the pond is not draining --properly and there is a silt build-up. Mr. Bran:een reported that there is no maintenance money in the Bassett Creek �,Iatershed district. Mr. Smothers asked about the water level in the pond at tdorth Lions. Mr. Brandeen said that the pond was designed only to store water for a short period of time. Mr. Smothers then asked if the trash in the pond could be cleaned up - perhaps as a scout project. The meeting was adjourned at 8:28 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Gene Hackett Recorder Crystal Park & Recreation Advisory Commission Nay 5, 11387 The regular meeting of the Crystal Park and Recreation Advisory Commission was called to order at 7:g4 pr-, by Chai roerson Garry Grimes. Members present were: Ms. Reid, Mr. Hoffmann, Mr. Sochacki, Mr. Stockhaus, Mr. Genis, Ms. Veech, Ms. Pitts, and Ms. Saunders. Also present were: Mr. Brandeen and Ms. Hackett for the department staff. Donald Toays was present representing the fire department. Ms. Hackett reviewed the monthly report highlighting major activities. Ms. Reid summarized the last Crystal Frolics meeting. A funding proposal was accepted by the Crystal Frolics Committee - the Fire Department will give the responsibility of the Frolics to the committee and in return donate Klein's percentage to the committee. The other civic groups will donate 25% of their profits to the Frolics Committee. The Frolics committee will incorporate and set-up bylaws. Mr. Genis wondered if the Frolics Committee is recognized by the Council as an ad hoc committee. Mr. Hoffmann suggested that the Fire Department send the Council a le*.ter stating that the Firemen have turned control to the Frolics Committee. Mr. Brandeen suggested that the Frolics Committee should look into writing by-laws first, then investigate the relationship with the city. Mr. Toays talked about the fireworks for the Frolics. He felt there were 3 possible sites to shoot them off: 1. Berm on northside of park between pathway and Bass Lake Road 2. Parking lot behind Skippers 3. Burlington Northern RR right of way by park building The fireworks require digging 30 holes. The fire department would do any re -sodding required. The space requirement needed is 30 feet long by 2 feet wide. Mr. Toays felt that the park berm was the best choice because if the Skippers parking lot was used, dirt would have to be hauled in, spread and then hauled out; if the railroad property was used, an area around the property would have to be cleaned - this would include the building area. Mr. Brandeen expressed his concern about damage to the park. Mr. Toays said the Fire Department would repair any damage done. Motion - Mr. Ganis: Moved to recommend that the Fire Department use the berm on the northside of the park to shoot the Crystal Frolics fireworks depending on fire marshall approval. The fire department. will repair any damage done to park. property. if successful, the spot coud bemade permanent si.te-through .use of creative landscaping modifications. Second: Ms. Reed Motion Carricd: Unanimous Ms. Reid reviewed the progress of Crystal Frolics events. A Chairperson is needed for the Fun Run. its. Hackett reviewed the April Arts Committee -meeting. Invitations to the Dedication :ill be mailed soon. A brochure on all the concerts is being prenared. Park and Recreation Advisory Comimission members will help serve pop and help with balloons. There �%,as no Long Range Planning Commission report. Mr. Brandeen distributed the 5 Year Plan. Mr. Genis thought a copy should be given to the Council. Mr. Brandeen said that the Council has the same plan but in a different format. Mr. Genis thought this format was easy to read and understand. The commission discovered that the city now has a city wide logo. The commission felt that the Fark and Recreation logo should be kept. Motion - Mr. Stockhaus: Moved to recommend that the Park & Recreation Department maintain its logo in that the Park & Recreation logo reflects what this department and commission is all about. Second: "1r. Genis Motion Carried: Unanimous Mr. Hoffmann asked about the status of the cemetary property. Mr. Brandeen replied that it will be used for Little League. The A Minor field will have to be moved within the boundary of the city property by the end of the year. Mr. Brandeen asked for any ideas the commission may have for the 1°")3'budget: Dredge Bassett Creek Spillway Bocce Courts at Thorson Picnic tables and grills at the Little League field/pool area Redo sewage at Bassett Creek nature trail Recreation programs for mentally ill Outreach Senior programs - Classes in the community Mr. Brandeen reviewed the proposed apartment building on 32nd & Brunswick. Mr. Genis voiced a concern over unleashed dogs in Bassett Creek Park.. Mr. Stockhaus suggested calling the animal warden. Mr. Hoffmann suggested that the Police or Reserves could issue warning tickets. Mr. Genis also mentioned that the police may want to patrol the wooded area at Bassett Creek. The next meeting is Wednesday June 3 at 7:00 p.m. at Becker Park. A tour will be given at 6:30 p.m. Respectfully Submitted Gene Hackett Recorder Crystal Park & Recreation Advisory Co Mission Special fleeting May 27, 1987 The special meetino of the Crystal Park and Recreation Advisory Commission was called to order at 6:43pm by Chairperson Garry Grimes. Members present were: Ms. Veech, Mr. Stockhaus, Mr. Hoffmann, Ms. Saunders, Ms. Pitts, Mr. Carlson, Mr. Genis and Ms. Reid. Also Present were Mr. Brandeen and Ms. Hackett from the department staff. Mr. Grimes reviewed the Purpose of this special meeting. The Commission felt that the Council bypassed Commission input on the renaming of Becker Park. Other areas of concern are- the new city logo (which supercedes the Park and Recreation logo) and the inability of the Long Range Planning Commission to act on the.5 year plan. Thfe minutes from the May 6 regular meeting were approved so that they can be included in the Council packets to be mailed Friday. Mr. Grimes reviewed the action taker: at the May 19 Council meeting. Mr. Moravec made a motion to rename Becker Park in honor of Pete Mei-ntsma. Mr. Moravec felt that Mr. Meintsma was the drive behind the redevelopment of the area, and that he should be recognized for that effort. Mr. Grimes said a short discussion followed the motion and the vote was 4 -yes, 1 -no and 2 absent (.not voting). Ms. Veech said that she objected to the process. Commission members echoed that feeling - they thought the matter should be referred to the Commission for discussion and a recommendation. Mr. Hoffmann quoted the ci.ty charter which says the ParkandRecreation Advisory Commission shall makerecommednations on matters pertaining tc park and recreation prdgrams in the city. Mr. Carlson felt the Commission should go to the Council and make the Commssion's feeling known. The Commission discussed several options in regards to making a presentation to the Council. After the discussion the f-ollowing motion was made: Motion - Mr. Geni.s: Moved to recommend to request the. Council to reconsider and revoke their action of renaming Becker Park without the consultation of the Park and Recreation Advisory Commission. The issue is not. whether the Commis-sion agrees or disagrees with_ the name., the issue is that the Commission was not advised or consulted on this matter. In the future, the Park and Recreation Advisory Commission should be consulted in the renaming of any Park -and Recrea- tion facility. Second - Mr. Stockhaus Montion Carried - Unanimous Mr. Grimes will call the City Clerk to get on the Council Agenda for June 2. Cc,f,msiion members are asked to attend this meeting. -> Further discussion centered on possible outcomes of the Coucil meeting. Mr. Stockhaus said that if Mr. Rygg voted yes, then he can move to have the motion reconsidered. Mr. Stockhaus will talk to Mr. Rygq. Mr. Genis suggested that if the Advisory Commission's request is denied, then the Commission members should consider making their resignation at the next Commission meeting. Mr. Grimes asked Commissioners to call their Council people and voice their opinion. The meeting was adjourned at 7:25pm. Respectfully submitted Gene Hackett CRYSTAL PARK & RECREATION ADVISORY COMMISSION J:jne z 19F7 Becker Park The regular meeting of the Crystal Park and Recreation Advisory Commission was called to order at 7:04 p.m. by Chairperson Garry Grimes. Members present were: Ms. Saunders, Mr. Hoffmann, Mr. Carlson, Ms. Reid, Ms. Pitts, Mr. Stock - haus, and Mr. Genis. Also present were: Mr. Smothers, council liaison, and Mr. Brandeen and I's. Hackett from the department staff. Others in attendance were: Ms. Herbes and Mr. Rygg, city council members, and several residents from the Becker Park area. The minutes from the May 27 special meeting were approved as sent. Ms. Hackett reviewed the monthly report, highlighting major activities. The commission was introduced. Citizens from the Becker Park area made the following comments: 1. Softball spectators expressed their concern that the 4 foot fence in front of the bleachers is not adequate protection from line drives, overthrows, pop flys, etc. A request was made to have the fence height raised so that spectators would have the same protection as the players. Mr. Brandeen reported that the city's insurance carrier had said that the city is not under provision to provide spectator fencing as spectators have the option of standing behind the backstop. Mr. Stockhaus felt if the city provides bleachers, it could fall under the category of an attractive nuisance. Carlson cited a similar ruling made in hockey arenas. Ms. Reid felt the park should be made as safe as possible. Motion - Mr. Carlson: Moved to recommend that the Becker Park foul line fences be raised to a height of 6 feet and this height extend as far as the length of the bleachers. Second - Mr. Stockhaus. Motion carried - Unanimous. 2. Several residents expressed concern over changing the name of Becker Park. The Becker Park name is well-known in softball, frolics activities, etc. 3. Comments also were made by residents regarding the manner in which the park renaming was handled. Mr. Grimes summarized the Park & Recreation Advisory Commi-ssion's appearance at the June 2 city council meeting. Mr. Grimes, Mr. Hoffmann, Ms. Reid, and Mr. Carlson made presentations regarding three areas of concern: 1. Renaming of Becker Park not being referred to the commission for a recommendation. CP&' Advisory Commission Meeting p. 2 2. Inability of the city Long Range Planning Commission to act on the 5 -Year Plan. 3. New city logo wl ich suoercedes the Park & Recreation logo. Mr. Genis asked the outcome of the meeting. Mr. Grimes reported that the motion was read again and the vote was 4-3 for the name change. Ms. Saunders, Ms. Reid and Mr. Hoffmann felt that the issue of the commission not being asked for a recommendation on the proposed name change was totally ignored by the council members for the change. Mr. Genis felt that if the commission is not appreciated and used as it was intended, then members should consider resigning. Mr. Stockhaus agreed and added that the council should follow the methods established for the use of commissions. Ms. Herbes asked the com- mission t o hold off any decisions regarding resigning. Mr. Rygg also asked the commission to work with the council to resolve this issue so that both groups can move ahead in a constructive vein. Mr. Grimes read an excerpt from a textbook regarding the role of commissions in a city. Mr. Stockhaus felt that this should be copied and given to the council at the special meeting. Mr. Grimes distributed copies of the Commission's Guideline on Naming Park Facilities. Ms. Herbes had a copy of the January 1977 council minutes in which these guidelines were accepted by the council. Mr. Rygg asked the Cum - mission to have a compromise proposal to present at the joint meeting. Mr. Carlson suggested a plaque with the names of the mayor (Mr. Meintsma) and the council of the year the redevelopment was passed. Other ideas included naming of a structure within the park for Mr. Meintsma. Mr. Rygg also told the com- mission that they could call a public hearing on this matter but hoped that would be used as a last resort. The.agenda of this joint meeting was discussed. Mr. Hoffman felt that the Long Range Plan should be discussed also. Mr. Grimes will call Mr. Irving to set up the meeting. First choice day is Wednesday, June 10. Ms. Reid reviewed the last Crystal Frolics meeting. Commission help is needed for publicity. All ads are due by June 29 for the tabloid. The Float is decorated. The queen candidates are having a salad luncheon June 13. Mr. Brandeen reported on the Arts Committee meeting. A concert schedule was distributed. Approximately .'7"9;OOOin donations have been received to date. A grant application was made to the Metro Council for 1988 for a Crystal Jazz Festival. Posters and brochures are at -the printer. The Dedication Day program was reviewed. Mr. Smothers requested to add a concert July 30. The Crystal Lions will sponsor the "Decades." The Lions and Elks are selling mugs for 50 cents at the Dedication. The July meeting will be held July I at Thorson Center - a bocce demonstration will be included. CP&R Advisory Commission Meeting P. 3 Mr. Smothers told the commission that he had commented at the last council meeting that costs should be obtained regarding keeping of the Park & Recrea- ton logo for department use. A Frolics Fun Run Coordinator is needed. If anyone knows of someone, please call Mr. Brandeen. A coordinator is needed or the race cannot be held. The meeting was adjourned at 8:52 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Gene Hackett Recorder CRYSTAL PARK & RECREATION August 5, 1987 Crystal Highlands Park The regular meeting of the Crystal Park and Recreation Advisory Commission was called to order at 7:08 pm by Chairperson Garry Grimes. Members present were: Mr. Sochacki, Ms. Reid, Mr. Carlson, Ms. Saunders, Mr. Hoffmann, Mr. Stockhaus, and Mr. Genis. Also present were: Mr. Smothers, council liaison; and Mr. Brandeen and Ms. Hackett from the department staff. Others in attendance were: Mr. Rygg, city council member and several residents from the Crystal Highlands area. Introductions were made and Mr. Grimes reviewed the purpose of the neighborhood meetings. The June minutes were approved as sent. Ms. Hackett reviewed the June and July monthly reports, highlighting major activities. Citizens -from the Crystal Highlands Park area made the following comments: 1) Request for new, updated playground equipment - Mr. Brandeen reported that this item is included in the request to the Long Range Planning Commission and part of the 5 year Park Improvement Plan. 2) Loose dogs in park - Citizens were asked to call the animal warden. 3) Vandalism - Mr. Brandeen asked residents to call the police if they see anything going on. He added that there has only been minor vandalism at Crsytal Highlands. 4) Nightlight on building - The nightlight is set to go off at midnight. They want it on later into morning hours. 5) Several residents felt that the park maintenance is really good. 6) Hockey pucks fly into a neighbors yard - Mr. Brandeen suggested that the department try placing cyclone fencing on top of the hockey boards. 7) Request for longer weekend hours for skating - The department will try a Saturday evening 6-9 pm program. 8) Recyling program - Mr. Smothers reported that a city- wide program will be available soon. Information will appear in the Post. 9) Curbing - Mr. Genis stated that the city Long Range Planning Commission is looking into this. 10) Cover -over the creek - Mr. Smothers said there is no plan for that. 11) 36th Av. N. repairs - Mr. Genis reported that this is part of the Long Range Planning Commission 5 year plan. 12) Favorable comments on the lounge chairs at the pools. 13) Tree Trimming - Mr. Brandeen talked about the city's tree trimming plan. 14) New street signs look nice except Markwood Avenue should be Markwood Drive. 15) Dead end sign on Jersey Circle - residents were instructed to call the City Engineer. 16) Backstop for the park - Mr. Brandeen said that the park is really too small for a backstop. 17) Favorable comments on the Becker concerts. 18) Possibility of planting more trees in the park - Mr. Brandeen reported that there isn't anymore planned. 19) Snowplowing driveways like Edina does so that the snow doesn't get in the driveways - Mr. Smothers reported that there are no plans at this time. 20) Opening skating rinks after school - Mr. Brandeen said that the earliest the rink would open would be 5:00 pm. When the rinks opened at 4:00 pm attendance was very low. Crystal Highlands residents were thanked for their participation. Mr. Brandeen reviewed the Council meeting on June 16. The playground equipment for Yunkers was approved, as was the North Lions Fitness Course. The Commission reviewed the Crystal Frolics events. The Frolics went well. Ideas discussed included: -Moving beer/bingo to west parking lot by carnival. -More aerial fireworks (perhaps block off Bass Lake Road) . -No tossing candy, just hand it out. -Change parade to Thursday night. The Commission members thanked Ms. Reid for her representation on the Frolics Committee. Ms. Reid thanked Mr. Smothers and Commission members for their hard work and assistance with Frolics events. The Commission reviewed the Becker Park dedication. The event went well except that the heat hurt attendance. Mr. Genis reviewed the last Long Range Planning Commission meeting. He said that an overall comprehensive plan should be put together by the next meeting. 1988 would start the implementation of the plan. Mr. Brandeen informed the Commission that the city will not renew its lease for Thorson in June 1988. The school district has offered to sell the property to the city, however the building is in need of major structural repairs so the city turned down the offer. Currently the city is consulting with architects to determine space needs for the police department, parks & recreation department, senior citizens programs, etc.. Mr. Carlson suggested that a community center and golf course could be built at Bassett Creek Park. Other commissioners thought the pool site would be more centrally located. Mr. Carlson felt a par 3 golf course should be considered by the Commission as it would enhance Crystal's park facilities. Mr. Brandeen reminded the Commission that a golf course was not on the 5 year plan, and an addendum would have to be made. Motion - Mr. Carlson: Moved to recommend that Mr. Brandeen look into the feasibility of a par 3 golf course at Bassett Creek Park. Second - Mr. Genis Motion Carried: Unanimous A committee was named to assist in this matter. Committee members are: Mr. Genis, Mr. Carlson, and Mr. Sochacki. The Commission discussed the renaming of parks. The document that was previously written will be discussed at the next meeting so a recommendation can be made to the council. Mr. Sochacki suggested that the medians on Bass Lake Road need edging. The Commission commented favorably on the Becker Park softball spectator fence. Ms. Saunders requested the Commission consider taking some action to request a crosswalk light on 59th and West Broadway. A petition among neighbors was suggested. Mr. �Brandeen said that West Broadway was a county road and the city didn't have jurisdiction. Mr. Genis suggested contacting the county commissioner for this area. Motion - Mr. Genis: Move to recommend that the city council ask Mr. John Derus, County Commissioner, to investigate the possibility of a pedistrian crosswalk on West Broadway at 59th. Second - Mr. Carlson Motion Carried - Unanimous Mr. Hoffmann updated the Commission on Hennepin Parks. Several items are planned for French Park including a 3600 square foot building, ski rentals, cargo net play area and fix -up of the beach/swimming area. The meeting was adjourned at 8:30 pm. Respectfully Submitted, Gene Hackett Recorder CRYSTAL PARK AND RECREATION September 2, 1987 Forest Park The regular meeting of the Crystal Park and Recreation Advisory Commission was called to order at 7:02 pm by Chairperson Garry Grimes. Members present were: Ms. Saunders, Mr. Sochacki, Mr. Carlson, Ms. Reid, Mr. Hoffmann, Ms. Pitts, Ms. Veech and Mr. Stockhaus. Also present were: Mr. Smothers - council liaison - and Mr. Brandeen and Ms. Hackett from the department staff. Others in attendance included several residents from the Forest Park area. The Commission members were introduced. Mr. Grimes reviewed the purpose of the neighborhood meetings. The July minutes were approved as sent. Ms. Hackett reviewed the monthly report, highlighting major activities. Citizens from the Forest Park area made the following comments: 1. New Playground equipment is needed - Mr. Brandeen reported that the Commission's 5 Year Plan was submitted to the city's Long Range Planning Commission which will make recommendations to the City Council. The Council will prioritize needs based on information from the Long Range Planning Commission. 2. Forest PTA gave the city $4000 for the purchase of playground equipment. Should a petition be circulated and then presented to the Council for action? - It was suggested that the PTO organize and make presentations to the Council and School Board regarding this matter. 3. Present equipment is not safe/Who is liaible for any injuries? - City only maintains the ballfields park building and wading pool so the school district would be responsible. 4. Match bricks on school building - Call the school district maintenance department. 5. Park and Recreation department does a great job! 6. Meeting notices should have been distributed over a wider area. 7. Possibility of opening wading pool earlier and closing it later for a longer season - Staff is a problem when colleges are still in season. This year's season was 1 week longer. The weather usually turns cool in late August. 8. Good staff at park and pool this year. 9. Lots of glass - It was suggested that the school organize a glass pick-up time. 10. Who mows grass - district 281 11. Dog walking in park - Crystal has a leash law and "pooper-scooper" ordinance. 12. Request for a stop sign on 48th and Louisiana - A petition from the neighbors should be brought to the Council. 13. Request for a "Slow Children" sign - Those signs are not used anymore. The residents were thanked for their comments. Ms. Reid reviewed the last Crsytal Frolics meeting. The Frolics Committee is trying to get non-profit status. Officers were elected. Two Committee members appeared before the Council with a list of requests. They wanted information on income from Frolics events that were city sponsored. The committee also needed information on the site available for the carnival. The whole Frolics committee was not aware of this Council appearance. The Committee meets again on September 28. The guidelines for renaming park facilities were reviewed. Discussion was set for the next meeting. Mr. Brandeen reviewed the Community Center space needs study currently being done by Anderson -Dale. The building could house a Senior Center, gyms, kitchen and other community use facilities. Mr. Stockhaus asked if the Police Dept. would be located in this building. Mr. Brandeen said that city hall might renovated for their needs. Mr. Grimes asked if there would be a bond issue. That has not been determined yet. Mr. Carlson reported on the golf course committee. Two sites could be considered: 1. MAC Park 2. Brunswick property west of Bassett Creek Park Creek area. Another consideration would be leased land from the Crystal Airport similar to the Richfield course at Twin Cities airport. Mr. Carlson was directed to write a letter to the Council asking their permission to pursue this idea of leasing land from the MAC. The MRPA Conference is October 14, 15, and 16. Commission members should let Mr. Brandeen know if they will attend. Mr. Smothers informed the commission of the Crystal Lions Club donation of $2,000 to complete the purchase of playground equipment at the park property on Angeline Drive/Soo Line Railroad. He requested that the commission consider that the park property be named "Lions Soo Line Park". The commission will consider this request at the next meeting. The Lions Club was thanked for their total donation of $17,000. ($11,000 - playground equipment/$6,0000 - fitness course) Ms. Saunders asked the status of the stop sign on West Broadway. Mr. Smothers said the council would not get the information until the September 15 meeting. Ms. Reid reported that the Crystal Frolics Committee would like a group to help with the Honored Seniors Program. She asked the commission to discuss this. Other groups that could be approached are the Human Rights Commission or a church. This will be on the next commission meeting agenda. The meeting was adjourned at 8:43 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Gene Hackett Recorder CRYSTAL PARK AND RECREATION October 7, 1987 The regular meeting of the Crystal Park and Recreation Advisory Commission was called to order at 7:06 pm by Chairperson Garry Grimes. Members present were: Ms. Saunders, Ms. Reid, Ms. Pitts, Mr. Genis, Mr. Stockhaus, Mr. Sochacki, Mr. Carlson, Mr. Hoffmann, and Ms. Veech. Also present were Mr. Smothers, council liaison and Mr. Brandeen and Ms. Hackett from the department staff. The September minutes were approved as sent. Mr. Brandeen reviewed the monthly report, highlighting major activities. The summer meetings were reviewed. Commission members thought that this was a good opportunity to talk to people. It was helpful to have Mr. Smothers at these meetings to give citizens an overview of the city -as a whole. The Commission would like to continue having 4 meetings in the parks. Better publicity is needed. Mr. Genis reported on the Long Range Planning Commission. The Commission made no changes in the plans that were presented by the various departments. The overall plan will be sent to the Council to establish priorities. Ms. Reid reviewed the Frolics Committee meeting. The Committee has established by-laws and a 1988 budget. There is $2500 to start the 1988 celebration. Events are being reviewed. The carnival will have all of Sherburne Avenue and the Becker Park west parking lot to use. Motion - Mr. Genis: Moved that the Park and Recreation Advisory Commission appropriately recognize Ms. Reid for her service to the Crystal Frolics Committee. Second: Mr. Stockhaus Motion Carried: Unanimous Materials regarding renaming park facilities prepare by Park and Recreation Advisory Commission members several years ago were reviewed and discussed. This document was presented to the Council but no formal action was taken at that time. Motion - Mr. Carlson: Moved to forward the "Renaming Parks" document to the City Council for their discussion and action. Second: Mr. Genis Motion Carried: Unanimous The renaming of Soo Line/Angeline Drive park was discussed. Motion - Mr. Genis: Moved to table the discussion of this item until some direction from the Council is received concerning the "Renaming Parks" document. Second: Mr. Sochacki Motion Carried: Unanimous Mr. Carlson discussed projected costs of developing the Bassett Creek area (west of the creek) as a 9 hole golf course. He estimated a cost of $224,000 for the course development. He knows a builder that would be willing to walk the area and sketch a layout for no fee. Mr. Genis has talked to some residents around the area who feel a golf course would be a good thing for that area. Mr. Stockhaus suggested that the property owner west of Brunswick be contacted as to the status of the land. Mr. Carlson and Mr. Genis will visit Mr. Nafstad. The Golf Course Committee will meet again to walk the area with Mr. Carlson's friend. Mr. Carlson was thanked for his work. The North Lions Fitness Trail Dedication program was reviewed. Commissioners will help at the event. Door prizes will be donated by the Crystal Lions and Kokesh Athletic. Mr. Brandeen confirmed Commissioner's MRPA Fall Conference registrations. Mr. Brandeen reported on the Department's 1988 budget request as approved by the City Council. Mr. Genis voiced his opinion regarding the Post article concerning Becker Park land acquisition. Mr. Smothers announced that the situation was discussed at the last Council meeting and the Post will print a corrected article. The meeting was adjourned at 8:32 pm. Respectfully Submitted Gene Hackett Recorder CRYSTAL PARK AND RECREATION ADVISORY COMMISSION Minutes November 4, 1987 The regular meeting of the Crystal Park and Recreation Advisory Commission was called to order at 7:09 p.m. by Chairperson Garry Grimes. Members present were: Ms. Reid, Ms. Pitts, Ms. Saunders, Mr. Hoffmann, Ms. Veech, and Mr. Carlson. Also present were: Mr. Smothers, council liaison, and Mr. Brandeen and Ms. Hackett from the department staff. The minutes were approved as sent. Ms. Hackett reviewed the monthly report,highlighting major activities. There was not a Long Range Planning Commission report. Ms. Reid reviewed the last Crystal Frolics committee meeting. Events are in the process of being planned. The Frolics committee would like to continue with the advertisement tabloid and printers are being contacted as to bids. The committee would like to get the American Legion, K.C.'s, and VFW more involved. A jail is being considered for an activity. It would benefit PRISM. Mr. Brandeen reviewed the space needs study as prepared by the architects contracted by the council. Thorson will close June 30, 1988. The interim Senior Center site will be the K.C. Hall. The proposed building plan calls for: 2 gyms, kitchen, meeting room, craft room, game room, senior center, child care and the department offices. The cost: $3,500,000. A work session between the council and staff is scheduled for November 24. Two funding methods are being considered: bond issue or lease/purchase agreement. Also included in the space needs study was renovation of city hall and police area. The total project cost: $5.8 million. The commission heard a summary of MRPA Conference sessions. The commission discussed the Becker Arts Program report. Plans are underway for next year's concert season. A Crystal Jazz Festival is planned for 1988. Facility improvements being considered include: a dance floor, benches, and a canopy. -1, Mr. Brandeen informed the commission that the department could like to recognize individuals who donate their time in maintaining our park property. Currently, a resident from Becker helps with the flag as well as picks up litter at the park almost daily. Motion - Mr. Grimes - Moved to recommend that park volunteers be honored for their service at one of the summer meetings. Second - Ms. Veech Motion carried - Unanimous. The meeting was adjourned at 9:19 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Gene Hackett Recorder CRYSTAL PARK AND RECREATION ADVISORY COMMISSION Minutes December 2, 1987 The regular meeting of the Crystal Park and Recreation Advisory Commission was called to order at 7:09 p.m. by Chairperson Garry Grimes. Members present were: Ms. Reid, Mr. Hoffmann, Ms. Pitts, Mr. Sochacki, Ms. Saunders, Mr. Carlson, and Ms. Veech. Also attending were: Ms. Hilden representing Forest School PTA; Mr. Smothers, council liaison; Mr. Rygg, council member; and, Mr. Brandeen and Ms. Hackett from the department staff. The minutes were approved as sent. Ms. Hackett reviewed the monthly report highlighting major activities. Mr. Hoffmann was interested in how the Seniors view the closing of Thorson. Ms. Diane Hilden, representing the Forest School PTA Apparatus/Equipment Committee asked the commission for assistance in obtaining playground apparatus at Forest School. The PTA raised $4,000 and gave it to the city for this playground equipment; in addition, the school district is willing to assist in installation and donate $2,000 for handicap equipment. The total cost is expected to be about $16,000. The commission discussion centered on how much money for playground equipment will be allocated by the council. Mr. Hoffmann felt it was important to fund the entire playground equipment package - not just one area. Motion - Mr. Genis: Moved to recommend to the council that early consideration be given to the 5 -Year Capital Improvement Plan #1 priority which is playground equipment for these 6 parks: 1. Forest 2. Lee 3. Kentucky 4. Bassett Creek 5. Twin Oak 6. Cavanagh As prioritized in the Long Range Planning Commission. Second - Mr. Hoffmann Motion carried - Unanimous Mr. Genis reviewed the Long Range Planning Commission meeting. The Park and Recreation Commission request was left intact. The plan goes to the council now. Mr. Brandeen reviewed the Department's Community Center presentation to the council. It is possible that there could be a bond issue for the plan. Mr. Stockhaus asked about usage of Fair. District #287 is in the second year of a 3 -year lease. Mr. Grimes asked about the condition of the building. Mr. Stockhaus felt that Fair should be explored because the voters may question its usage. Mr. Sochacki felt that Fair should be given to the city, especially since the taxpayers have paid for the building already. Mr. Hoffmann felt that enough gym space should be a top priority. Mr. Stockhaus felt that an existing building should be used if at all possible. Mr. Smothers reported that Ms. Deno had submitted a report on Fair and she may have additional information. Ms. Reid reviewed the last Crystal Frolics meeting. Several new events may be added: Pancake breakfast, Ice Cream Social, and Jail. Motion: Mr. Hoffmann - Moved for the Park & Recreation Commission to operate the Dunk Tank during the 1988 Crystal Frolics. Second - Mr. Genis Motion carried - Unanimous 1988 Officers were elected: Chairperson - Mark Hoffmann Vice Chairperson - Red Sochacki Secretary - Arlene Pitts Mr. Carlson informed the commission about the Golf Course Preliminary Plan. Estimated cost is $379,000. Mr. Brandeen said that Brauer & Associates will also look at the site. Mr. Sochacki suggested that this plan be kept on the back burner until the Community Center is finalized. Also, the Brooklyn Center operation should be carefully watched. Ms. Saunders expressed the concern.of replacing the woods with a golf course. Mr. Stockhaus thought a couple of longer holes would be desirable - then the property across Brunswick would be needed. Mr. Brandeen informed the Commission of the MRPA Board/Commission meeting to be held December 3 at Becker Park. Mr. Genis reviewed the Long Range Planning Commission meeting. The Park and Recreation Commission request was left intact. The plan goes to the council now. Mr. Brandeen reviewed the Department's Community Center presentation to the council. It is possible that there could be a bond issue for the plan. Mr. Stockhaus asked about usage of Fair. District #287 is in the second year of a 3 -year lease. Mr. Grimes asked about the condition of the building. Mr. Stockhaus felt that Fair should be explored because the voters may question its usage. Mr. Sochacki felt that Fair should be given to the city, especially since the taxpayers have paid for the building already. Mr. Hoffmann felt that enough gym space should be a top priority. Mr. Stockhaus felt that an existing building should be used if at all possible. Mr. Smothers reported that Ms. Deno had submitted a report on Fair and she may have additional information. Ms. Reid reviewed the last Crystal Frolics meeting. Several new events may be added: Pancake breakfast, Ice Cream Social, and Jail. Motion: Mr. Hoffmann - Moved for the Park & Recreation Commission to operate the Dunk Tank during the 1988 Crystal Frolics. Second - Mr. Genis Motion carried - Unanimous 1988 Officers were elected: Chairperson - Mark Hoffmann Vice Chairperson - Red Sochacki Secretary - Arlene Pitts Mr. Carlson informed the commission about the Golf Course Preliminary Plan. Estimated cost is $379,000. Mr. Brandeen said that Brauer & Associates will also look at the site. Mr. Sochacki suggested that this plan be kept on the back burner until the Community Center is finalized. Also, the Brooklyn Center operation should be carefully watched. Ms. Saunders expressed the concern of replacing the woods with a golf course. Mr. Stockhaus thought a couple of longer holes would be desirable - then the property across Brunswick would be needed. Mr. Brandeen informed the Commission of the MRPA Board/Commission meeting to be held December 3 at Becker Park. Mr. Smothers informed the commission that if the Community Center is built, the Crystal Lions are willing to donate $40,000 for kitchen equipment. The meeting was adjourned at 9:09 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Gene Hackett Recorder