2010.03.03 PRC Minutes
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Crystal Parks and Recreation Advisory Commission
Minutes
March 3, 2010
The Crystal Parks and Recreation Commission meeting was called to order at
7:05 p.m. by Chairperson Lynn Haney. Commission members in attendance
were: Ms. Merriam, Ms. Sodd, Ms. Kalvik, Mr. Schuneman, Mr. Lehnertz and Mr.
Jungroth. Also present were, Mr. Selton, Council Liaison; Mr. Rauen and Ms.
Hackett from the city staff and Mr. Solberg and Mr. Kennedy from Disc Golf.
The Minutes were approved as sent.
Since there were visitors, the agenda was re-arranged so that Disc Golf would be
the first topic discussed. Mr. Kennedy, Mr. Jungroth, Mr. Mathisen and Ms.
Hackett met earlier to discuss course layout. Mr. Kennedy presented a disc golf
layout that could include 18 holes. The first overhead was the existing course,
the second one showed a 16 hole course. This layout uses the MNDot turnback
property along highway 100, and restructures some of the existing holes. The
sub-committee was mostly in agreement with this layout. The 3 rd overhead
showed options to get the next 2 holes to make 18. These options included
either 2 holes in the woods, 2 holes on the peninsula or a combination of 1
woods/1penisula. Discussion between the Commission and Mr. Kennedy and Mr.
Solberg:
East section of course and turnback property :
· Heavily wooded, will the holes show fit there?
When combined with the park property along highway 100, 6 holes
should fit in there. There are some wet areas that may be a problem
during certain times of the year.
· Can we use the turnback property?
Mr. Solberg said that a permit can be obtained from MNDot. Mr.
Selton thought that the city EDA is looking at purchasing the property
from redevelopment. Staff will check into this.
· Concern over the curving hole #2 and proximity to the houses.
The hole can be re-adjusted as necessary.
· Concern over the holes behind the houses on Welcome.
A neighborhood meeting will have to be held to get input. Again, the
holes can be adjusted.
Woods – West side :
· Prefer to stay out of the woods – leave for conservation area.
There is a lot of buckthorn in there. The disc golf group would be
willing to clean out the buckthorn and plant desirable vegetation. It
may help with some erosion from the present course as players take a
short cut across the hill instead of on the pathway, and these new
holes would change the trail.
· Maintenance concerns if holes were in the woods.
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Maintenance could be an issue because of park staff cutbacks.
Mowing will be minimized in some areas (here and the turnback
property).
· Discs will go into the woods. Players will be intrusive.
Discs may fly off course and players will go get them.
Peninsula
· Concern regarding using this passive open space.
These 2 holes make the course flow since players end up back at the
start. A water hole lends an interesting aspect to the course.
· Concern that discs will go into the water and players will wear down
the shoreline vegetation to get them.
Provide only 1 way to get down to the water.
· Concern that by using this area, the disc golf is taking up too much
area. The Commission needs to remember that the park is for all
users.
Disc golf is popular and having 18 holes would be beneficial to the
players and make this a premier course. The passive area can still be
used to enjoy the pond.
Compromise Holes
· Suggestion that doing a combination of 1 woods and 1 peninsula
hole may work.
Either one of the woods holes will require extensive work to clear the
buckthorn; the group is willing to do that. Temporary baskets for
tournament have been used on the peninsula.
Moved by Mr. Jungroth and seconded by Ms. Kalvik to expand the
disc golf course to 18 holes using 2 holes on the peninsula on a trial
basis and contingent upon receiving a permit form MNDot for the 3
holes on the turnback property. If the turnback property is not
available, 15 holes will be planned. Development of the expansion is
dependent that the additional holes are developed at no cost to the
city and the baskets are donated by the disc golf group.
Motion Carried 5 – 2
Aye: Haney, Jungroth, Kalvik, Sodd, Lehnertz
Nay: Merriam, Schuneman
The next steps will be to:
Check with the EDA and MNDot regarding the permit process
Schedule a City Council work session
Depending on that outcome, schedule a public meeting.
The monthly reports were given, highlighting major activities.
Ms. Haney gave the Chairperson report. The after the meeting summary and to
do list was well received by the members. The 2010 work plan was finalized:
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Moved by Ms. Merriam and seconded by Mr. Jungroth to recommend
to accept the 2010 work plan.
Motion carried - unanimous
Ms. Haney also reminded the Commission about the Crystal Frolics button
contest. The Commission judges the entries.
Mr. Rauen reviewed the PIR expenditures for Lions Valley Place Park in terms of
implementing the Long Range Plan. Due to limited funds, the implementation
program is scaled back. There was additional discussion regarding planting
shoreline vegetation at Twin Lake Shores. Perhaps that can be put back and the
money used towards the budget deficit.
Mr. Rauen informed the Commission of the Shingle Creek Clean-up. The week
of April 17 – 24 has been designated for this. Mr. Rauen is looking for a project
that would be in the Shingle Creek watershed area.
Arbor Day is scheduled for April 17 at Becker Park. Commission members will
be asked to help. The details will be finalized before the next meeting.
The Commission discussed the Kentucky playground. There probably isn’t
enough interest to do a community installation. Mr. Rauen will work on getting
proposals for the May meeting.
Ms. Haney reviewed the Dog Park presentation at the City Council meeting.
There were people both for and against the project at the meeting and all were
heard. Councilmember J. Moore also had several questions and comments. Ms.
Haney responded to the questions and comments. The City Council did approve
the project 5 – 1.
Mr. Selton gave the City Council report:
· The dog park was approved.
· A Public Works truck was purchased.
· The Gambling ordinance was changed to reflect new state
regulations.
· A business was granted an extension to remove inventory due to a
license violation.
· Appointments were made.
· Approved resolution for Crystal Little League grant application.
· The 36 th avenue striping project feasibility study was approved.
· The aerial mapping for street projects phase 12 and 13 was
approved
· Set a budget work session.
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Ms. Haney gave the Crystal Frolics Committee report:
· Bands are booked.
· Sun Post has cut advertising costs and will do a tabloid
· Sponsor forms are going out
· John Solberg is doing photo buttons
· The meetings have been moved back to the CCC.
Mr. Jungroth gave the Crystal Business Association report:
· They held a general meeting
· Scheduling coffee breaks for networking
· They are looking for ways to assist with fundraising for special donations
· Holding a food drive in March for NEAR
Mr. Jungroth informed the Commission that a former Commission Andy
Anderson passed away.
The next meeting is Wednesday April 7 at 7pm at the CCC.
The meeting was adjourned at 9:12pm.
Gene Hackett
Recorder