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CRYSTAL PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Monday, June 9, 2014 at 7:00 p.m.
Council Chambers, Crystal City Hall
A. CALL TO ORDER
The regular meeting of the Crystal Planning Commission convened at 7 p.m. with the
following members present:
X Commissioner (Ward 1)
Sears [Vice Chair]
X Commissioner (Ward 2)
Kolb
X Commissioner (Ward 4)
Richter
X Commissioner (Ward 1)
Heigel
X Commissioner (Ward 3)
VonRueden [Chair]
X Commissioner (Ward 4)
Johnson
X Commissioner (Ward 2)
Erickson
X Commissioner (Ward 3)
Buck [Secretary]
X Commissioner (At-
Large) Strand
Also present were City Council Liaison Laura Libby, Mayor Jim Adams, and staff
members John Sutter, Tom Mathisen, Anne Norris and Gail Van Krevelen.
B. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Moved by Commissioner Sears and seconded by Commissioner Heigel to approve the
minutes of the January 13, 2014 regular meeting with no exceptions.
Motion carried.
C. PUBLIC HEARINGS
1. Consider Application 2014-1 for a conditional use permit for Milton’s (3545
Douglas Drive North) to stay open until 12:00 midnight instead of 10:00 p.m.
Sunday-Thursday, and also to stay open until 1:00 a.m. on January 1 of each
year.
Staff presented the following:
City Planner John Sutter explained that Milton’s is located in the center of a multi-
tenant building and is looking to expand their hours of operation. He also stated
that he had received one call in opposition to the expanded hours.
The following were heard:
No one spoke before the commission.
Planning Commission discussion:
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Commissioner Strand questioned whether there had been any calls to the
restaurant. Mr. Sutter said there had been 2 calls in the past year, but none due
to any type of disturbance.
Commissioner Kolb asked whether the kitchen would be open an additional two
hours, Mr. Sutter said he wasn’t sure.
Commissioner Richter asked if every business in a C-1 district is required to
close by 9 pm. Mr. Sutter said yes, unless they get a CUP.
Moved by Commissioner Kolb and seconded by Commissioner Strand to
recommend approval of Application 2014-1 for a conditional use permit for
Milton’s (3545 Douglas Drive North) to stay open until 12:00 midnight instead of
10:00 p.m. Sunday-Thursday, and also to stay open until 1:00 a.m. on January 1
of each year.
Motion carried.
2. Consider Application 2014-2 for a conditional use permit for MD Liquors (7200
56th Avenue North) to stay open until 10:00 instead of 9:00 p.m.
Staff presented the following:
City Planner John Sutter stated that this was the same business that received a
CUP last year for an 8 foot high fence. At that time they were aware of the 9
p.m. closing time, however, state law allows for a 10 p.m. closing which the
property owner is now requesting.
Mr. Sutter also mentioned that no neighbor comments have been received, the
adjacent residences are screened by the fence, the property is located in an area
with a mix of uses and staff could see no reason to deny the request.
The following were heard:
No one spoke before the commission.
Planning Commission discussion:
Commissioner Kolb questioned whether this was the same property that
previously requested a sign. Mr. Sutter said yes, but that was for a citywide
ordinance change and not specific to the property.
Commissioner Erickson asked what the closing time was for other liquor stores in
the area. Mr. Sutter explained that it varied and that 4 of the city’s off-sales are
in the C-1 district.
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Moved by Commissioner Kolb and seconded by Commissioner Sears to
recommend approval of Application 2014-2 for a conditional use permit for MD
Liquors (7200 56th Avenue North) to stay open until 10:00 instead of 9:00 p.m.
Motion carried.
3. Consider Application 2014-3 for a variance for a monument sign at St. Raphael’s
(7301 56th Avenue North) to have a height of 10 feet 6 inches instead of 6 feet.
Staff presented the following:
Mr. Sutter stated that this property is zoned R-1 but this is a mixed-use area on a
busy road. He also mentioned this sign is relatively small considering the other
signs in the area.
The following were heard:
Ginny Metzger, the administrator for the church, said she was available for
questions.
Planning Commission discussion:
Commissioner VonRueden questioned if the property owner was replacing the
sign and Mr. Sutter said no, this is a new sign, but there is another sign located
elsewhere on a different parcel of the property, and that sign will remain.
Moved by Commissioner Heigel and seconded by Commissioner Buck to
recommend approval of Application 2014-3 for a variance for a monument sign at
St. Raphael’s (7301 56th Avenue North) to have a height of 10 feet 6 inches
instead of 6 feet and subject to the findings of fact.
Motion carried.
4. Consider Application 2014-4 for site and building plan review, conditional use
permits, variances and street vacations for a new public works facility at 5001
West Broadway.
Staff presented the following:
City Planner John Sutter presented the staff report to the commission. He stated
that most of the current public works site is in a flood plain has numerous safety
and health issues, and this was the best site for a new facility that the city could
acquire. Pre-demolition preparation has begun and there is a 62,000 square foot
building being proposed for the site.
He also said there will be a new curb cut by the old law office across from
Corvallis which will mainly be used by the larger vehicles and deliveries of large
quantities of materials, a smaller one in the middle of the site across from Doyle’s
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building for visitors and employees, and a third one at the south end of the site
for city vehicles entering and leaving the building.
In addition to the main building, there would also be covered bins for storage and
a cold storage building for things such as barricades and barrels. Currently the
city purchases gas from the school district bus garage but because of uncertainly
with the school district and operational inefficiency due to the location, the city is
considering a fueling station for city use but this would not be open to the public.
Mr. Sutter went over the zoning actions needed, approval of the site and building
plans, approval of CUP, approval of a variances to allow building to be within 10
feet of property line along West Broadway. He pointed out that the 10 feet would
be from the overhang, not the foundation wall, the base of the building would be
approximately 14’ from West Broadway. They are also considering putting the
utilities underground which would require a 10’ utility easement.
The city is also requesting a variance for hard surface coverage of 80% rather
than 75%, but plan to install a stormwater pond that will provide 100% treatment
of surface runoff. There are also easements and a right-of-way that will be
vacated.
The following were heard:
Bonnie Kline, 4833 Yates Ave N, spoke to the commission about her concerns
regarding possible dangers to the young children in the area and that the building
would turn out looking like an industrial building like the community center. She
said that the community center looks gorgeous on three sides, except for the
back of it which is totally blank with no landscaping softening it. She would like
the entire south side of this site to have trees and bushes.
Ed Kodet, architect for the project, said there would be fencing along the west
and east end of the site’s south side and landscaping all along that side. The
building would be using materials to make it more residential in character, and
there would be a series of windows breaking up the wall. The vegetation will
consist of a variety of low, medium and high landscaping.
Becky Courteau, 4855 Yates Ave N, requested that the city plant more mature
trees rather than tiny ones, and she was also concerned about the lights from the
parking lot and from within the building shining on neighboring properties. She
also felt that this project would stagnate or lower her property values.
Commissioner Kolb asked if there was any reason why additional trees couldn’t
be placed along the south side of the site.
Ed Kodet said that additional trees can be placed there and they would look into
increasing the caliper of the trees. He also stated the parking lot will have a
minimal amount of light at the property line and most of the time there will not be
any lights on in the vehicle area.
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Bonnie Kline questioned whether the trucks entering the site would be using the
residential streets and was told that vehicles would primarily be using West
Broadway and 51st Place for access.
Jay Larson, Washburn-McReavy, 5100 Douglas Dr N/5125 West Broadway,
stated that he was impressed with the plans for the screening between the two
properties but concerned that people who visit the cemetery would be disturbed
by the noise. He also indicated they were not notified of the work going on and
expressed concern about the noise from trucks backing up and how it may
impact activities on their property. He also said that people viewing the holding
pond may assume it’s theirs since it won’t be fenced.
City Engineer Tom Mathisen addressed the commission and said that there
really weren’t any other sites available without having to buy out businesses and
lose that tax base and have to relocate them. The city was able to acquire free
class five from a school torn down in New Hope and had to stockpile that and
currently are in one of the noisier phases of demolition due to reclaiming the
asphalt. However, once construction is completed, there really isn’t a lot of
backing up on a public works site, and will work with the cemetery to try to
schedule any major activity around any large events they may have if possible.
Mr. Mathisen and Mr. Sutter both addressed the trees on the south side of the
site, stating that the city will try to save as many as possible until the new, higher
quality trees gain sufficient size.
Planning Commission discussion:
Commissioner Sears asked whether the salt shed would be on this site and Mr.
Sutter said that the site is not large enough, the utilities building and salt storage
shed will remain on the current site, at least for the time being. The streets
building and pole barn will be demolished.
Commissioner Kolb questioned if this was how things usually went, he felt it was
backward since the city had a few million dollars invested in this project already.
He also stated his objection because he felt at this point the council would not
reverse themselves and that this was just a formality and would go through
regardless what the planning commission said.
Mr. Sutter said that the plans have not been finalized, construction bidding hasn’t
happened yet, but the acquisition of the property and demolition of the site has
been approved by city council. It is unusual for the city to be both the applicant
and regulator, but that is necessary because the city needs to find a place for
these operations and no other entity has local land use authority. The City
Council has not approved building and site plans but the Planning Commission
review process is the same as it would be for any private development.
Commissioner VonRueden asked about landscaping and fencing. Mr. Sutter
said there would be 8’ opaque fencing or a wall along the south side of yard
areas, and the area between the property line and the fencing would be
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landscaped. There would also be a 6’ high chain-link fence abutting the
cemetery property and a decorative fence along West Broadway.
Commissioner Richter asked for clarification as to whether the CUP and
variances were what the planning commission was being asked to approve. He
wanted it noted he has a problem with the probject but would say yes to the
variances. Mr. Sutter said the commission is also asked to approve the site and
building plans.
Commissioner Sears suggested that the trees that are planted be ones that will
grow in the soil we have. The architect stated that the soil had been tested and
he has been working with the city forester.
Moved by Commissioner Strand and seconded by Commissioner Heigel to
recommend approval of Application 2014-4 for site and building plan review,
conditional use permits, variances and street vacations for a new public works
facility at 5001 West Broadway with enhanced landscaping on south side of site
along Fairview Avenue.
Motion carried 7 – 2 with Sears, Heigel,
Erickson, VonRueden, Buck, Johnson and Strand
voting aye and Kolb and Richter voting nay.
D. GENERAL INFORMATION
1. City Council actions on previous Planning Commission items:
▪ January 21, 2014: Denied Application 2013-16(b) for a garage setback
variance at 4952 Quail Avenue North, but approved an alternate variance as
recommended by the Planning Commission
2. Staff preview of likely agenda items for Monday, July 14, 2014 meeting
3. Status and next steps for the Bottineau LRT project, and city comment letter
responding to the Draft Environmental Impact statement.
Commissioner VonRueden asked for an update on The Cavanagh. Mr. Sutter
said that the city has closed on the sale of the land to the developer and
construction is scheduled to begin by July 1.
He also questioned surveying he saw on Gaulke property on east side of 3900
block of Douglas Dr. Mr. Sutter said the city is anticipating an application for
some type of development, probably by replatting the property for 13-14 single
family homes but no applications have been received at this time.
Commissioner VonRueden also questioned why on a couple new homes that
were built on Lakeland at 50th and Corvallis, why the living side of the houses
were closer to 81 than the garages. Mr. Sutter stated that the city did offer
suggestions but these were pre-sold, custom-built homes laid out the way the
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homebuyers wanted them, and when the windows are closed they are
surprisingly quiet inside, and having the living areas on the 81 side means the
bedrooms are further from 81.
Regarding the city’s comments on the Draft Environmental Impact statement for
Bottineau LRT, Mr. Sutter said that staff had concerns with noise and vibration
from the light rail; those may be able to be mitigated. He also indicated Metro
Transit may locate a project office in Crystal; staff has given them leads on office
space locations.
Commissioner Richter asked what the timeline was for councils have to approve
the light rail; Mr. Sutter said that the point of municipal consent is a couple years
away.
E. OPEN FORUM
No one spoke before the commission.
F. ADJOURNMENT
Moved by Commissioner Buck and seconded by Commissioner Richter to adjourn.
Motion carried.
The meeting adjourned at 8:35 p.m.