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CRYSTAL PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
December 12, 2011 at 7:00 p.m.
Council Chambers, Crystal City Hall
A. CALL TO ORDER
The regular meeting of the Crystal Planning Commission convened at 7:00 p.m. with the
following members present:
X Commissioner (Ward 1)
Sears
X Commissioner (Ward 2)
Whitenack [Chair]
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Moved by Commissioner Buck and seconded by Commissioner Heigel to
recommend to the City Council to approve Application 2011-15 for the plat of
Crystal Medical 2nd Addition (5700 Bottineau Boulevard) and street vacations
adjacent to 5736 Lakeland Avenue North.
Motion carried unanimously.
2. Consider Application 2011-16 to amend the Comprehensive Plan to guide the west
half of 5400 Corvallis Avenue North (Cavanagh school property) for High Density
Residential and the east half for Park (Continued from November 14, 2011)
John Sutter presented the staff report.
Chair Whitenack opened the Public Hearing, the following were heard:
Janice Morlock asked if the city considered how apartments vs townhomes will
affect property values in the neighborhood. Mr. Sutter explained the EDA is also
concerned about the property values and have looked at the trade-off of losing
open space with single family homes vs. an apartment building on approximately
half of the site with park space on the remaining half. Because of the multitude
of factors, it would be impossible to know the impact any of the options may have
on property values.
Chair Whitenack noted when a school is open and functioning often the property
values are higher. Since that is no longer the case, one possibility to make the
neighborhood more desirable would be to maintain the park space.
Michele Baker addressed the commission. In her personal experience feels a
large apartment complex is not appealing in a neighborhood. She asked if after
rezoning the west half of the property to high-density residential and the east half
to park, could that ever change. Mr. Sutter explained the EDA’s desire to include
deed restrictions that will run with the land that would not allow development of
the east half. Another deed restriction the EDA would stipulate for the housing is
that it be age restricted.
Chair Whitenack re-capped:
Land use would change for two sections of the property;
If the entire property would change to R-1 Residential, a developer would
be allowed to build single family homes with 10% of the site as dedicated
park;
The proposed change the west half of the property to High Density
Residential with criteria as outlined in the Comprehensive Plan proposal;
the east half would be park, with no additional development. The park
portion of the property would be deeded to the city.
Commissioner Erickson asked if the city would maintain the park portion of the
property. Mr. Sutter stated the city does maintain the east portion of the property
although the city does not own the property. The school has maintained a
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playground on the west end of the school. The park at the east end of the
property is the only park in Crystal east of Highway 81 south of the railroad
tracks.
Commissioner Sears asked Ms. Baker how she felt about one-story townhomes
on the site. Ms. Baker feels High-Density does not appeal to single family home
owners, and she does not want the park to go away. She is interested in keeping
the neighborhood as quiet and peaceful as it is.
Hearing no further comment, Chair Whitenack closed the Public Hearing.
Planning Commission discussion:
Commissioner Erickson stated an apartment building has been built at 42nd and
Douglas (Robbinsdale) and asked if property values could be looked at in the
Welcome Park neighborhood to help determine what effect the building may
have had on property values. Mr. Sutter explained it would not be possible to
consider all of the variables involved to determine the effect on property values.
Mr. Sutter noted the EDA is interested in that same type of building, but larger
and on a larger campus. The Robbinsdale building is for very low income senior,
the EDA would be looking at slightly higher income level, up to 60% of Twin
Cities metro area median income.
Commissioner Whitenack inquired if single family homes were to be built on this
property and only 10% of the area had to be dedicated park space, is there
anything that would require the park stay on the east end of the property instead
of relocating it to the west end to maximize the property nearer the lake. Mr.
Sutter said the developer could be directed where the park area is to be, and that
it would be possible but impractical to relocate the park.
Commissioner VonRueden asked if senior housing would be 55 and older, and
could it be assisted living, memory care or a combination. Mr. Sutter pointed out
this is not what the EDA has in mind, as assisted living may be over built right
now. The site might include bus transportation and limited on-site services. The
EDA is looking for independent living with some amenities.
Commissioner Sears asked if the property is established as a 55 and over
building, but units are not leased as quickly as the owner anticipates, would the
age restriction matter come back to the commission for revision? Mr. Sutter
stated that multiple legal mechanisms would be put in place to permanently
restrict the site to senior housing. Cooperatives were looked at, but it was felt
they were too costly to appeal to Crystal residents. What the EDA has in mind is
housing that is restricted to 60% of area median income, keeping it affordable to
Crystal residents. Commissioner Sears asked if the developer would get federal
funds for this type of construction. If Federal Tax Credits were use, Mr. Sutter
stated, the developer would be receiving federal funds.
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Commissioner Johnson asked if the Comprehensive Plan includes a snapshot of
the increase in seniors in Crystal. As not all 2010 census information is in, said
Mr. Sutter, current information is not available. Mr. Sutter stated more are aging
in place.
Moved by Commissioner Whitenack and seconded by Commissioner Strand to
recommend to the City Council to approve Application 2011-16 to amend the
Comprehensive Plan to guide the west half of 5400 Corvallis Avenue North
(Cavanagh school property) for High Density Residential and the east half for
Park.
Motion carried 6/1 (Sears).
3. Consider Application 2011-17 to revise previously approved plans for an office
building at 5618 56th Avenue North
Staff member, John Sutter, presented the staff report.
The following were heard at the Public Hearing:
Ken Streeter, of Streeter Development, addressed the commission. Although he
agreed with the majority of the staff report, he asked the commission to consider
removing the requirement of completing the parking lot improvement by
September 30, 2012. He feels he can better meet the needs of future occupants
of the property by completing the parking lot once tenants have been secured
and cause less damage to the parking area by vehicles used to complete the
project. He stated he understood the landscaping requirements, but did not feel
the parking lot has much of an impact on the improvement of the visual appeal of
the property.
Chair Whitenack asked if just the first lift of paving had been completed. Mr.
Streeter indicated he felt the current base would hold up.
Commissioner Strand asked how long Streeter Development had the property.
Mr. Streeter said they had been working with the property for 2 months.
Chair Whitenack asked if leaving the parking lot as is would distract from a
probable sale. Mr. Streeter does not feel that it would.
Council Liaison Deshler asked why the staff report would have a compliance date
for completion of the siding of June 30, 2012, not an earlier date such as April,
2012. Mr. Sutter responded to Council member Deshler’s question explaining
the extent of the work that may be required, including replacement of the wrap,
siding, etc., will require ample time to complete. Mr. Streeter acknowledged the
compliance date of June 30, 2012, as the date the building exterior needs to be
completed, and Streeter Development is prepared to authorize that construction.
Planning Commission discussion:
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Commissioner Sears asked if the only issue with the parking lot is that it only has
a base coat. Mr. Sutter explained the city’s concern with the narrow entrance
and old curbcut that need to be brought up to code.
Commissioner Whitenack stated the exhibits with the staff report require a
widening of the entrance, curb and adding the accessible parking space.
Commissioner Whitenack asked if there is an accessible parking space or ramp
on site now. Mr. Sutter indicated there is no dedicated accessible space nor
accessibility to the building.
Commissioner Erickson asked Mr. Streeter if he feels focusing on land
improvements would distract from siding work. Mr. Streeter felt it would and he
has been informing prospective buyers of work that will need to be completed.
Commissioner Heigel commented he felt that putting curb and the landscaping
would enhance the property.
Commissioner Whitenack asked if the required number of spaces were included
in the plan. Mr. Sutter said the property had the minimum required for this use
including the accessible space.
Mr. Sutter expressed the city’s concern with Streeter Development’s open ended
timeline for the completion of the parking lot. Staff feels there needs to be a
definite date for the completion.
Mr. Streeter requested the completion date be moved from September 30, 2012
to September 30, 2013.
Chair Whitenack suggested November 15, 2012, as the date typically set for
completion of work of this scope.
Commissioner Strand acknowledged that although the improvements to the
parking area would be costly, it may prove helpful to get the property sold. Ms.
Strand also commented she did not feel that damage to the finished parking area
would be significant during the completion of the project.
Mr. Streeter said they would also like to look at putting the accessible parking
space at the rear of the building.
Commissioner Buck suggested a completion date of June 30, 2013 and asked if
the Certificate of Occupancy would be held up until the parking lot improvements
were completed. Mr. Sutter said a Temporary Certificate of Occupancy may be
issued, the Building Official would not issue the Certificate of Occupancy until the
work is completed. Mr. Sutter noted the September 30, 2013 compliance date
may cause enforcement issues if the work is not completed, eventually resulting
in the required work being delayed until 2014.
Chair Whitenack suggested the Compliance Date of July 1, 2013.
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Moved by Chair Whitenack and seconded by Commissioner Sears to
recommend to the City Council to approve Application 2011-17 to revise
previously approved plans for an office building at 5618 56th Avenue North per
staff recommendations 1 and 2 of the staff report, but requiring landscaping be
completed by September 30, 2012 and completion of site improvements to the
parking area by July 1, 2013.
Motion carried 7/1 (Strand).
4. Consider Application 2011-18 for rezoning of 5708 West Broadway to C-2 and
site plan review to expand Herzing University’s parking lot
Staff member, John Sutter, presented the staff report.
Commissioner Whitenack asked if the number of required parking spaces is met
with the proposed plan. Mr. Sutter, City Planner, stated the business functions
as a office/retail space and the proposed plan supplies more parking than
required. Mr. Sutter explained that Herzing acknowledged needing more spaces
than the minimum required by city code.
Commissioner Whitenack commented on the extreme angle of the parking
makes it appear as if they are trying to squeeze in an extra row of parking. With
issues noted in the staff report regarding access to the property for emergency
vehicles, it may be advisable to remove one row of parking.
The following were heard at the Public Hearing:
John Slama, Herzing Campus President, stated they calculate the number of
spaces needed at 7 per 1,000 sq. ft. The building is 25,000 sq. ft. and therefore
need 170 to 180 spaces. The peak number of students if 360, with 35 to 40% on
campus at any given time. They currently lease parking spaces from Paster
Enterprises. They currently have 100 parking spaces.
Commissioner Johnson asked if discussions have begun with West Metro Fire to
resolve the access issues. Mr. Slama indicated they have begun to research
sprinkling the entire building.
Commissioner Erickson asked if the school has implemented course hour
changes to relieve parking issues. Mr. Slama indicated their hours are Monday-
Thursday 7 am to 10:30 pm; Friday 7 am to 5 pm; Saturday 8 am to 4:30 pm.
Commissioner Heigel asked the height of the fence along the north property line.
Mr. Slama indicated it would be a six foot vinyl fence.
Planning Commission discussion:
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Commissioner Johnson asked if the house is vacant. Mr. Sutter spoke with the
owner the day of the meeting and she had confirmed the property is vacant.
Moved by Commissioner VonRueden and seconded by Commissioner Heigel to
recommend to the City Council to approve Application 2011-18 for rezoning of
5708 West Broadway to C-2 and site plan review to expand Herzing University’s
parking lot with Conditions and Finding of Fact as outlined in the staff report.
Motion carried unanimously.
D. OLD BUSINESS-none heard
E. NEW BUSINESS-none heard
F. GENERAL INFORMATION
1. Staff preview of likely agenda items for January 9, 2012 meeting
• Potential changes to zoning (discussion item)
• Annual organizational meeting
G. OPEN FORUM
• Commissioner Heigel asked about progress on the proposed restaurant at
36th and Douglas Dr – city has heard nothing further
• Commissioner Heigel asked about progress of McDonald’s
remodel/driveway – city has recently received revised plans requested
several months ago. Building changes will likely begin over winter; drive-
thru changes during summer 2012
H. ADJOURNMENT
Moved by Commissioner Buck and seconded by Commissioner Sears to adjourn.
Motion carried unanimously.
The meeting adjourned at 9:04 p.m.