2004 Work Session MinutesCrystal City Council Work Session minutes January 6, 2004
792
Pursuant to due call and notice given in the manner prescribed by Section 3.01 of the
City Charter, the work session of the Crystal City Council was held at 9:05 p.m. on
January 6, 2004 in Conference Room A at 4141 Douglas Drive, Crystal, Minnesota.
The city manager recorded the attendance and the following members were present:
COUNCIL: Anderson, Grimes, Hoffmann, Joselyn, Meintsma, Krueger, and Moore
STAFF: City Manager A. Norris
The Council and staff discussed the following:
■ Police Chief's Employment Contract; and the
■ City Manager's Performance Evaluation
The meeting adjourned at 9:25 p.m.
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Crystal City Council Work Session minutes January 20, 2004 793
Pursuant to due call and notice given in the manner prescribed by Section 3.01 of the
City Charter, the work session of the Crystal City Council was held at 6:30 p.m. on
January 20, 2004 in Conference Room A at 4141 Douglas Drive, Crystal, Minnesota.
The city manager recorded the attendance and the following members were present:
COUNCIL: Anderson, Grimes, Hoffmann, Meintsma, Krueger, and Moore
ABSENT: Joselyn
STAFF: City Manager A. Norris, Code Enforcement Coordinator R. Brown, and
Community Development Director P. Peters.
OTHER: Planning Commission Member M. Strand
The Council and staff discussed the Neighborhood Leadership Council.
The meeting adjourned at 6:55 p.m.
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Crystal City Council Work Session minutes January 20, 2004
797
Pursuant to due call and notice given in the manner prescribed by Section 3.01 of the
City Charter, the work session of the Crystal City Council was held at 7:25 p.m. on
January 20, 2004 at City Hall in Conference Room A located at 4141 Douglas Drive,
Crystal, Minnesota.
The city clerk recorded the attendance and the following members were present:
COUNCIL: Anderson, Grimes, Hoffmann, Meintsma, Krueger, and Moore
ABSENT: Joselyn
STAFF: City Manager A. Norris, Finance Director S. Dunfee, City Engineer T.
Mathisen, and City Clerk J. Lewis.
OTHER: S. Harder, Environmental Financial Group
The Council discussed the following items -
1. The annual appreciation dinner for volunteers serving on commissions, police
reserves, and committees ; and
2. Updates regarding the JWC negotiations with MPLS and next steps.
The meeting adjourned at 8:32 p.m.
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Peter E. Meintsma, ayor
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Jaoet Lewis, City Clerk
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Crystal City Council Work Session minutes February 12, 2004 802
Pursuant to due call and notice given in the manner prescribed by Section 3.01 of the
City Charter, the work session of the Crystal City Council was held at 7:00 p.m. on
February 12, 2004 in Conference Room A at 4141 Douglas Drive, Crystal, Minnesota.
The city manager recorded the attendance:
COUNCIL: Hoffmann, Meintsma, Grimes, Krueger, Joselyn, and Anderson.
ABSENT: Moore
STAFF: City Manager A. Norris, Community Development Director P. Peters, and
City Planner J. Sutter
The Council and staff discussed long-term redevelopment in the city.
The work session adjourned at 9:00 p.m.
Peter intSma, May
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Crystal City Council Work Session minutes March 1, 2004
811
Pursuant to due call and notice given in the manner prescribed by Section 3.01 of the City
Charter, the work session of the Crystal City Council was held at 7:40 p.m. on March 1,
2004 in Conference Room A at 4141 Douglas Drive, Crystal, Minnesota.
The city clerk recorded the attendance.
COUNCIL: Hoffmann, Meintsma, Grimes, Krueger, Joselyn, and Anderson.
ABSENT: Moore
STAFF: City Manager A. Norris, Community Development Director P. Peters,
Recreation Director G. Hackett, and City Clerk J. Lewis (left at 9:00
P.M.).
PARKS & RECREATION
COMMISSION: C. Tostenson, W. Gentry, L. Haney, L. Reid, T. Jungroth, and R. Hull.
GUESTS: Bill Morris and Peter Leatherman from Decision Resources.
Agenda:
1. Received a presentation by Decision Resources on the results from the pool survey;
2. Discussed the article in the Sun Post regarding West Metra Fire Rescue District;
3. Received updates regarding the Crystal Frolics; and
4. Discussed the Council travel policy and city web site.
The work session adjourned at 9:18 p.m.
Peter E. Meintsma, Mayor
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Crystal City Council Work Session minutes April 5, 2004
817
Pursuant to due call and notice given in the manner prescribed by Section 3.01 of the
City Charter, the work session of the Crystal City Council was held at 6:00 p.m. on
Monday, April 5, 2004 in Conference Room A at 4141 Douglas Drive in Crystal,
Minnesota.
The city manager recorded the attendance:
COUNCIL: Hoffmann, Meintsma, Grimes, Moore, Joselyn, and Anderson.
ABSENT: Krueger
STAFF: City Manager A. Norris, Community Development Director P. Peters, and
City Engineer T. Mathisen
The Council discussed bid quotes for the Community Center Storage Addition Project.
The meeting adjourned at 6.26 p.m.
Peter E. Meihtsma, Mayor
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Crystal City Council Work Session minutes April 5, 2004
823
Pursuant to due call and notice given in the manner prescribed by Section 3.01 of the
City Charter, the work session of the Crystal City Council was held at 7:42 p.m. on April
5, 2004 at 4141 Douglas Drive, Crystal, Minnesota in Conference Room A.
The city manager recorded the attendance:
COUNCIL: Anderson Hoffmann, Grimes, Meintsma, Moore, and Joselyn.
ABSENT: Krueger
STAFF: City Manager A. Norris, Community Development Director P. Peters, City
Planner J. Sutter, and Finance Director S. Dunfee.
The Council discussed the following:
1. City's participation in financing Forest School Project;
2. West Metro Fire -Rescue District's aerial truck, 2005 budget, vehicle replacement
plan, maintenance of station property, new president; facilities study, and Human
Resource matters;
3. Met Council's transportation plan;
4. City's vehicle replacement policy; and
5. Other business (R.V. ordinance update)
The meeting adjourned at 9:28 p.m.
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Crystal City Council Work Session minutes April 20, 2004 824
Pursuant to due call and notice given in the manner prescribed by Section 3.01 of the
City Charter, the work session of the Crystal City Council was held at 6:30 p.m. on April
20, 2004 at 4141 Douglas Drive, Crystal, Minnesota in Conference Room A.
The city clerk recorded the attendance:
COUNCIL: Anderson Hoffmann, Krueger, Meintsma, Moore, and Joselyn.
ABSENT: Grimes
STAFF: Acting City Manager P. Peters, City Planner J. Sutter, and City Clerk J.
Lewis
OTHER: Hennepin County Assessor T. Doolittle
The Council discussed the following:
1. The 2004 Assessment Summary in conjunction with the upcoming May 4 Board
of Review Meeting; and
2. Other business.
The meeting adjourned at 6:57 p.m.
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Crystal City Council Work Session minutes June 1, 2004
846
Pursuant to due call and notice given in the manner prescribed by Section 3.01 of the
City Charter, the work session of the Crystal City Council was held at 6:22 p.m. on
Tuesday, June 1, 2004 in Conference Room A at 4141 Douglas Drive in Crystal,
Minnesota. Mayor Pro Tem Hoffmann called the work session to order.
The city clerk recorded the attendance as follows:
COUNCIL: Anderson, Grimes, Hoffmann, Joselyn, Krueger, and Moore
ABSENT: Meintsma
STAFF: City Manager A. Norris, Charter Commission Attorney D. Kennedy, and
City Clerk J. Lewis
Agenda
1. The Council discussed the City Charter amendments proposed by the Charter
Commission.
Removing the filing of nomination petitions for elected municipal
offices; and
Adding a disclosure requirement for campaign contributions of $100 or
more from any source.
The meeting adjourned at 6:57 p.m.
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Crystal City Council Work Session minutes June 1, 2004
852
Pursuant to due call and notice given in the manner prescribed by Section 3.01 of the
City Charter, the work session of the Crystal City Council was held at 7:30 p.m. on
Tuesday, June 1, 2004 in Conference Room A at 4141 Douglas Drive in Crystal,
Minnesota. Mayor Pro Tem Hoffmann called the work session to order.
The city manager recorded the attendance as follows:
COUNCIL: Grimes, Hoffmann, Joselyn, Anderson, Krueger, and Moore
ABSENT: Meintsma
STAFF: City Manager A. Norris and Recreation Director G. Hackett
Agenda
The Council discussed the following agenda items:
1. Pool Committee;
2. Liquor licensing training;
3. West Metro station costs; and
4. The Assistant City Manager/HR Director position.
The meeting adjourned at 8:20 p.m.
•yor Pro Tem
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Crystal City Council Work Session minutes June 10, 2004 855
Pursuant to due call and notice given in the manner prescribed by Section 3.01 of the City
Charter, the work session of the Crystal City Council was held at 7:30 p.m. on June 10,
2004 at 4141 Douglas Drive, Crystal, Minnesota in Conference Room A. Mayor Pro Tem
Mark Hoffmann called the meeting to order.
The city manager recorded the attendance as follows:
COUNCIL: Grimes, Hoffmann, Moore, Krueger, and Anderson.
ABSENT: Meintsma and Joselyn.
STAFF: City Manager A. Norris, Recreation Director G. Hackett, Community
Development Director P. Peters, and Finance Director S. Dunfee.
OTHER: Jim Casserly and Greg Johnson from Krass & Monroe PA Attorneys at Law.
The Council discussed the following agenda items:
■ TIF Cash flows;
■ Parks & Recreation Commissions recommendation for a dog park;
■ Funding sources for the city's participation in the Forest School Project;
■ Timesaver's property and adjacent properties;
■ JWC update; and
■ Code Enforcement position.
The meeting adjourned at 9:25 p.m.
Mark Hoffmann,yor Pro Tem
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Crystal City Council Work Session minutes June 28, 2004 866
Pursuant to due call and notice given in the manner prescribed by Section 3.01 of the
City Charter, the Work Session of the Crystal City Council was held at 7:00 p.m. on
Monday, June 28, 2004 in conference room A located at 4141 Douglas Drive, Crystal,
Minnesota. The Mayor Pro Tem called the Work Session to order.
The city manger recorded the attendance as follows:
COUNCIL: Hoffmann, Krueger, Joselyn, Anderson, Grimes, and Meintsma.
ABSENT: Moore
STAFF: City Manager A. Norris, Public Works Director T. Mathisen, Finance
Director S. Dunfee, and Recreation Director G. Hackett.
OTHER: Jim Maland from Bonestroo & Associates
The Council discussed the following:
■ The Joint Water Commission's recommendation to contract with Minneapolis for
its water source; and
■ Updates regarding the municipal pool.
The meeting adjourned at 9:15 p.m.
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Crystal City Council Closed Executive Session minutes
July 6, 2004 873
Pursuant to due call and notice given in the manner prescribed by Section 3.01 of the
City Charter, the Work Session of the Crystal City Council was held at 7:51 p.m. on
Tuesday, July 6, 2004 in conference room A located at 4141 Douglas Drive, Crystal,
Minnesota. The Mayor called the closed Executive Session to order.
The city manger recorded the attendance as follows:
COUNCIL: Hoffmann, Krueger, Joselyn, Moore, Anderson, Grimes, Moore, and
Meintsma
STAFF: City Manager A. Norris
The Council discussed the city manager's annual performance evaluation and salary.
The meeting adjourned at 8:26 p.m.
ATTEST:
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Crystal City Council Work Session minutes July 20, 2004 878
Pursuant to due call and notice given in the manner prescribed by Section 3.01 of the
City Charter, the Work Session of the Crystal City Council was held at 7:51 p.m. on
Tuesday, July 6, 2004 in conference room A located at 4141 Douglas Drive, Crystal,
Minnesota. The Mayor called the Work Session to order.
The city manger recorded the attendance as follows:
COUNCIL: Grimes, Anderson, Meintsma, Joselyn, Krueger, Moore, and Hoffmann.
STAFF: City Manager A. Norris and Public Works Director T. Mathisen.
OTHER: Greg Gappa, SCWMO Commissioner
Dawn Horner, Project Manager with Howard Green Company
Chris Catlin, Project Manager with Howard Green Company
The Council discussed the following:
■ Shingle Creek Watershed Management Organization's CIP Funding Policy;
■ The Twin Lake Shoreline Grant Application; and
■ The Sanitary Sewer Capacity and Inflow Project Fund.
The meeting adjourned at 8:29 p.m.
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Peter E. Meintsma,
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Crystal City Council Work Session minutes August 2, 2004
::.
Pursuant to due call and notice given in the manner prescribed by Section 3.01 of the
City Charter, the work session of the Crystal City Council was held at 7:55 p.m. on
Monday, August 2, 2004 at 4141 Douglas Drive, Crystal, Minnesota in Conference
Room A.
The city manger recorded the attendance as follows:
COUNCIL: Grimes, Anderson, Meintsma, Krueger, and Moore
ABSENT: Joselyn and Hoffmann
STAFF: City Manager A. Norris, Public Works Director T. Mathisen, and
Finance Director S. Dunfee.
OTHER: Tom Jungroth and Lynn Haney from the Parks & Recreation
Commission; Jim Maland and Karen Erickson from Bonestroo &
Associates
The Council discussed the following agenda items:
■ Pool recommendation from Task Force and Parks & Recreation Commission;
and
■ Environmental Quality Commission's 2004 goals.
The meeting adjourned at 8:45 p.m.
ATTEST:
Anrye Norris, City Nj'anager
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Crystal City Council Work Session minutes August 17, 2004
::•
Pursuant to due call and notice given in the manner prescribed by Section 3.01 of the
City Charter, the work session of the Crystal City Council was held on Tuesday,
August 17, 2004 at 4141 Douglas Drive, Crystal, Minnesota in Conference Room A.
The Mayor called the meeting to order at 10:12 p.m.
The city manager recorded the attendance as follows:
COUNCIL: Grimes, Anderson, Meintsma, Joselyn, Krueger, Moore, and Hoffmann
STAFF: City Manager A. Norris and City Planner J. Sutter.
The Council discussed Xcel Energy's cost estimate for placing overhead utilities
underground near Target and the Crystal Shopping Center area.
The meeting adjourned at 10:22 p.m.
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Crystal City Council Budget Work Session minutes August 19, 2004 890
Pursuant to due call and notice given in the manner prescribed by Section 3.01 of the
City Charter, the budget work session of the Crystal City Council was held at 7:00 p.m.
on August 19, 2004 in the Community room at 4141 Douglas Drive, Crystal, Minnesota.
The Mayor called the meeting to order.
The city clerk recorded the attendance as follows:
COUNCIL: Hoffmann, Krueger, Joselyn, Anderson, Grimes, and Meintsma.
ABSENT: Moore
STAFF: City Manager A. Norris, Public Works Director T. Mathisen, Finance
Director S. Dunfee, Recreation Director G. Hackett, Police Chief H. Algyer,
and City Clerk J. Lewis.
The Council discussed the 2005 General Fund Budget with staff members.
The meeting adjourned at 9:35 p.m.
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Crystal City Council Work Session minutes September 7, 2004 899
Pursuant to due call and notice given in the manner prescribed by Section 3.01 of the
City Charter, the work session of the Crystal City Council was held on Tuesday,
September 7, 2004 at 4141 Douglas Drive, Crystal, Minnesota in Conference Room
A. The Mayor called the meeting to order at 9:52 p.m.
The city manager recorded the attendance as follows:
COUNCIL: Anderson, Meintsma, Joselyn, Krueger, Moore, and Hoffmann
ABSENT: Grimes
STAFF: City Manager A. Norris and Public Works Director T. Mathisen.
OTHER: Paul Pasko, Scott Harri, and Aaron Ditzler from SEH Inc.
The Council and staff discussed the Phase 7 Street Reconstruction Project.
The meeting adjourned at 10:37 p.m.
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Crystal City Council Budget Session minutes September 9, 2004 900
Pursuant to due call and notice given in the manner prescribed by Section 3.01 of the
City Charter, the work session of the Crystal City Council was held on Thursday,
September 9, 2004 at 4141 Douglas Drive, Crystal, Minnesota in Conference Room
A. The Mayor called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
The city manager recorded the attendance as follows:
COUNCIL: Anderson, Grimes, Hoffmann, Joselyn, Krueger, and Meintsma
ABSENT: Moore
STAFF: City Manager A. Norris, Public Works Director T. Mathisen, Finance
Director S. Dunfee, and Community Development Director P. Peters
The Council and staff discussed the 2004 Capital Budget and the proposed water
contract between the JWC and the city of Minneapolis.
The meeting adjourned at 9:11 p.m.
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Crystal City Council Work Session minutes September 21, 2004 901
Pursuant to due call and notice given in the manner prescribed by Section 3.01 of the
City Charter, the work session of the Crystal City Council was held at 6:30 p.m. on
Tuesday, September 21, 2004 at 4141 Douglas Drive, Crystal, Minnesota in
Conference Room A.
The city manager recorded the attendance as follows:
COUNCIL: Grimes, Anderson, Meintsma, Joselyn, Krueger, and Hoffmann
ABSENT: Moore
STAFF: City Manager A. Norris and Community Development Director P. Peters
The Council and staff discussed the upcoming process regarding modifications to the
recreational vehicle code.
The meeting adjourned at 6:56 p.m.
Anne Norris, Ui
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Crystal City Council Work Session minutes October 5, 2004 90'
Pursuant to due call and notice given in the manner prescribed by Section 3.01 of the
City Charter, the work session of the Crystal City Council was held at 6:00 p.m. on
Tuesday, October 5, 2004 at 4141 Douglas Drive, Crystal, Minnesota in Conference
Room A.
The city clerk recorded the attendance as follows:
COUNCIL: Grimes, Anderson, Joselyn, Krueger, Moore, and Hoffmann
ABSENT: Meintsma
STAFF: City Manager A. Norris, City Attorney S. Bubul, Prosecuting City
Attorneys P. MacMillian and M. Wallace, Police Chief H. Algyer, and
City Clerk J. Lewis
The Council and staff discussed civil penalties for alcohol violations occurring at
Timber Lodge Steakhouse and EI Loro Mexican Restaurant.
The meeting adjourned at 6:29 p.m.
ATTEST:
Ja t Lewis, City Clerk
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Crystal City Council Work Session minutes October 19, 2004 916
Pursuant to due call and notice given in the manner prescribed by Section 3.01 of the
City Charter, the work session of the Crystal City Council was held at 6:15 p.m. on
Tuesday, October 19, 2004 at 4141 Douglas Drive, Crystal, Minnesota in the
Community Room.
The city clerk recorded the attendance as follows:
COUNCIL: Grimes, Anderson, Meintsma, Joselyn, Krueger, Moore, and Hoffmann
CHARTER: Erickson, Stockhaus, Hiel, Hester, Weyh, and Charter Attorney
Kennedy
ABSENT: Isaacson
STAFF: City Attorney S. Bubul and City Clerk J. Lewis
OTHER: Crystal resident R. Bowman
The Council and Charter Commission discussed the following:
1) Proposed Charter Amendment relating to the reporting of campaign
contributions of more than $100 received from any source
■ Define campaign contribution (MN Statute Section 211A.01,
Subdivision 5
■ Include contributions by a candidate? Candidate's spouse? Other?
The meeting adjourned at 6:55 p.m.
ATTEST:
Jan ?,Ylewis, City Clerk
Peter E. Meintsma, Mayor
Crystal City Council Work Session minutes October 19, 2004 924
Pursuant to due call and notice given in the manner prescribed by Section 3.01 of the
City Charter, the work session of the Crystal City Council was held at 8:53 p.m. on
Tuesday, October 19, 2004 at 4141 Douglas Drive, Crystal, Minnesota in Conference
Room A.
The city clerk recorded the attendance as follows:
COUNCIL: Joselyn, Anderson, Meintsma, Grimes, Krueger, Hoffmann, and Moore
STAFF: Public Works Director T. Mathisen, Finance Director S. Dunfee, Utilities
Superintendent R. Kloepper, and City Clerk J. Lewis
The Council and staff discussed the following:
■ Utility Rates for 2005.
The meeting adjourned at 9:27 p.m.
Peter E. Meintsma;lMayor
ATTEST:
Jan Lewis, City Clerk
Crystal City Council work session minutes November 16, 2004
939
Pursuant to due call and notice given in the manner prescribed by Section 3.01 of the
City Charter, the work session of the Crystal City Council was held at 8:31 p.m. on
Tuesday, November 16, 2004 at 4141 Douglas Drive, Crystal, Minnesota in
Conference Room A.
The city manager recorded the attendance.
COUNCIL: Hoffmann, Krueger, Meintsma, Joselyn, Anderson, Moore, and Grimes
STAFF: City Manager A. Norris, Assistant City Manager/HR Director K. Therres,
Community Development Director P. Peters, Public Works Director T.
Mathisen, and City Planner J. Sutter.
OTHER: Parks & Recreation Commissioner G. Mueller
The Council and staff discussed the City-wide Sidewalk Plan.
The work session adjourned at 9:12 p.m.
Peter E. Meintsma, Mayor
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Anne N(Orris, City Manager
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Crystal City Council Work Session minutes December 6, 2004 946
Pursuant to due call and notice given in the manner prescribed by Section 3.01 of the
City Charter, the Work Session of the Crystal City Council was held at 8:08 p.m. on
Monday, December 6, 2004 at 4141 Douglas Drive, Crystal, Minnesota in
Conference Room A.
The city manager recorded the attendance.
COUNCIL: Hoffmann, Krueger, Meintsma, Anderson, Moore, Joselyn, and Grimes
STAFF: City Manager A. Norris, City Attorney S. Bubul, City Planner J. Sutter,
Public Works Director T. Mathisen, Community Development Director
P. Peters, and Assistant City Manager/HR Director K. Therres.
The Council and staff discussed:
■ The Crystal Airport
■ Under -grounding utilities at Bass Lake Road and West Broadway and
■ The Crystal Foundation.
The Work Session adjourned at 8:50 p.m.
Peter E. Meint `ma, Mayor
ATTEST:
`Anne Norris, City Manager
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